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Message 241 of 300 (273628)
12-28-2005 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by Jazzns
12-28-2005 6:07 PM


Re: Carbon Dating Fossils?
Jazzns,
Strictly speaking, most paleontologists agree that the term fossil means any evidence of past life. As such 10k year old dry organic giant sloth dung is a fossil, so is a frozen mammoth, as well as an insect trapped in amber.
What you are describing is a permineralised fossil, which for all intents & purposes is synonymous with fossil in this discussion.
Mark
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Message 243 of 300 (273658)
12-28-2005 7:25 PM
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12-28-2005 6:57 PM


Re: Carbon Dating Fossils?
Mini_Dikta,
Do we know that dating is accurate because we always find the same fossils in the same layers?
No. We can have confidence in dating methods because different labs & methods arrive at similar conclusions.
You are getting confused with the concept of index fossils I think. Index fossils are numerous & widespread fossil species that are found in a narrow age range. The range is determined via radiometric dating. If the species actually does turn out to have a narrow age range after many tests, then we can with some confidence assert that any rocks we find them in are of that age.
For example, if the age of the surrounding sediment and/or rock in the area of a T-Rex find approximately matches that of the vast majority of other T-Rex finds (hopefully in disparate locations) it would seem to me that we now know with good certainty the approximate age of the T-Rex fossils. Is this a decent layman's explanation of how this dating works?
Yes, a reasonable explanation, but T-Rex would make a bad index fossil. Too few examples of this species.
Mark

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Message 256 of 300 (273990)
12-29-2005 8:43 PM
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12-28-2005 7:40 PM


Re: Carbon Dating Fossils?
Mini_Dikta,
Can we directly date most fossils or do we use the surrounding rock to date most fossils?
Surrounding igneous rock. ie Rocks that bracket the fossiliferous sedimentary rocks.
Mark

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