good things bad things. what does God really do?

mike the wiz responds to me:

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What you're saying is that the reason they are still sick is because they are evil, sinful people doing the thing that makes god vomit.

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Please, anyone, search my posts and see if you find me saying this.

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Did you or did you not post the following in Message 25 of this thread: Thus, did you say the literal words of "they are evil, sinful people doing the thing that makes god vomit"? No, of course not.But did you say that the reason people are not healed is because of something they did? Yes, you did.You said they don't have faith. Therefore, the reason why they're still sick, the reason why god has not healed them, is because they don't have faith. That is evil. That is sinful. That is the thing that makes god vomit.

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Untill then Rhain, simply please DO NOT put words I totally disagree with , in my mouth!

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If you don't like the implications of your own words, perhaps you should change what you are saying.Why aren't [B][I]ALL[/b][/i] the faithful healed?------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

mike the wiz writes:

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And what is all this 'gods vomit' - baffles me.

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Read a book.Christopher Durang. Sister Mary Ignatious Explains It All for You.Better if you can find an actual production of it. It's usually paired with The Actor's Nightmare. The made-for-cable expanded version of it was nice, but the play is better.------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

'if God does heal today?, yes if he does,he does.But not everyone has faith!'If I say not everyone has faith , am I suggesting illness and disease is their fault - NO.SO what am I saying?, all I am saying is a lack of faith can cause an illness to not be healed by God. I think it is now fair if you do not say 'are you saying' because I have explained what I meant. Thankyou for acknowledging the fact that I said nothing about gods vomit.

mike the wiz responds to me:

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if God does heal today?, yes if he does,he does.But not everyone has faith!
If I say not everyone has faith , am I suggesting illness and disease is their fault - NO.

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Who said you were?For the umpteenth time, the question is not why they got sick in the first place. The question is why they are still sick when they are faithful and god heals the faithful.The only reason you have provided is that they don't have faith. God heals the faithful so if they are not healed, it must be because they don't have faith.And not having faith is evil, sinful, and is the thing that makes god vomit.

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SO what am I saying?,

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That the reason that people are still sick is because they are evil, sinful people doing the thing that makes god vomit.Remember the word "still." It means we're not talking about where the disease came from in the first place. It means we're talking about why it's sticking around.

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all I am saying is a lack of faith can cause an illness to not be healed by God.

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Precisely. That's what I was talking about, mike. They are still sick because they are evil, sinful people doing the thing that makes god vomit.Why doesn't god heal [I][B]ALL[/i][/b] the faithful?

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I think it is now fair if you do not say 'are you saying' because I have explained what I meant.

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Incorrect. I have always known what you were saying. The problem is, you don't seem to pay attention to what I am saying.Am I talking about where disease comes from? No. Could be god, the devil, or Bob. Where disease comes from is irrelevant.No, I'm talking about why the faithful are [I][B]STILL[/i][/b] sick. After all, they're faithful and god heals the faithful.Ah, but you say they're not faithful.And that is evil, sinful, and the thing that makes god vomit.

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Thankyou for acknowledging the fact that I said nothing about gods vomit.

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Get over it. Don't be so disingenuous as to claim that I was somehow thinking you actually used the specific phrase. Does not the word "rhetoric" mean anything to you?------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

Yeah, those evil godless 6 year-old leukemia sufferers...------------------
"Illuminant light,
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Have you read anything I have said?Because what Rhain has said is untrue, proove otherwise with a qoute of my own, then you can judge me.[This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 09-20-2003]

And about those six year olds, I don't want them to suffer, so yes you HAVE failed to read my posts.

mike the wiz writes:

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Because what Rhain has said is untrue, proove otherwise with a qoute of my own, then you can judge me.

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Did you or did you not post the following in Message 25 of this thread: ------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

Please explain why they're suffering, then.------------------
"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

I think I will post my essay I wrote a while ago...(in it I called God sadistic) If I can find it..... Anyway mike answer me why are the faithful God loving people not healed? That is the main question Please do answer it.. and also answer the question why pray?

'and also answer the question why pray?'
message 45.'Anyway mike answer me why are the faithful God loving people not healed?'Well, if your fair you will admitt people do claim to have been healed, and they are loving and faithful, as for the rest I admitt I can only guess. I don't know, and I can't pretend to, what I do know is those who are loving and faithful ARE satisfied, though the unfaithful remain unsatisfied for them. My question is, if those who are loving and faithful can still be satisfied with God why can't you?

why can't you except that the christen God might not be "the god"? what if our creator was Evil? do you know this for sure? also 2 rules for this question
1. you can not use the bible as it doesn't have evidence thats its true
2. you cannot say you where touched or something. Because I had faith and I never was so I do not understand this. you must explain to me in a way I can understand or your point can't be proven. if that is the only way then its very weak of both you and your God

I am not sure what your trying to get out of me. I am suggesting (though I have admitted not knowing for sure) that if a person who is loving and faithful to God (your words) is satisfied, healing or no healing, why can't you be? They are the ones suffering, yet you have admitted they have to be loving and faithful.'1. you can not use the bible as it doesn't have evidence thats its true'My friend i believe the bible to be true, this is what i base my logic on, arent you the one interested in my answer to this question?'you cannot say you where touched or something. Because I had faith and I never was'Could you clarify?[This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 09-22-2003]

did you notice I stepped the origanal question? I asked a new one that can't involve the bible. and I have a new one from what you just said. why do you believe the bible to be true?

Lol, I am not sure what you seek from this humble fool(me), yet I will try:'why do you believe the bible to be true?'You don't want me to answer with bible knowledge? - bizarre.Well I believe because I have faith in it, God has freed me and helped me, and changed me through the words in it.