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Author Topic:   Which came first: the young earth, or the inerrant scripture?
Theodoric
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Message 58 of 161 (237298)
08-26-2005 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by hoaryhead
08-26-2005 11:48 AM


WOW
I dont even know where to begin. Your post shows an utter lack of comprehension of the issue. I guess I wont repond till I hear your answere for my question on the other thread. The one about how the bible made predictions.
Just one point before I blow up.
His name is Hermann Von Helmholtz. I can only assume you or someone elsa has been passing info around and someone cut and pasted an article that had the word had in front of Helmholtz.
He came up with 100 million years. He lived from 1821-1894
Charles Lyell lived from 1797-1875 from what I understand he never stated an age of earth, but he did date the Ordovician period at 240,000,000 years ago.
Isaac Aimov - 1920-1992
YOu dont even understand science. Science changes, becausethere is new evidence. To say something is false because 160 years ago people thought something different is ludicrous. In your reasoning germs dont exist. Germs, bacteria and virii can't exist because in 1830 people didnt believe in them. You dont believe there is no new evidence. Therefore, I must assume you live in a cave nd heat with wood on an open flame and use animals to do all of you heavy labour.

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Message 77 of 161 (237392)
08-26-2005 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Tal
08-26-2005 2:26 PM


Re: Tal strikes out again. (the Sequel)
Did you read the Wikipedia article at all?

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Theodoric
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Message 78 of 161 (237393)
08-26-2005 2:32 PM
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08-26-2005 2:28 PM


Re: Tal strikes out again. (the Sequel) Part Deux
So you never even read the article. Read it then come back.

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Theodoric
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Message 87 of 161 (237499)
08-26-2005 5:47 PM
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08-26-2005 5:10 PM


Re: Why cannot men add to 160?
So are you saying Asimov is correct?
There have been lots of scientific changes in last 160 years. How does this make evolution false?

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Theodoric
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Message 89 of 161 (237502)
08-26-2005 5:50 PM
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08-26-2005 5:47 PM


Re: Why cannot men add to 160?
I would agree that Mathematics is a science. But then again science is a pretty broad term. Here is a place where we truly are arguing semantics.
Hoary - Do not think for a moment this means that your arguments have any merit.
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Theodoric
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Message 101 of 161 (237726)
08-27-2005 3:12 PM
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08-27-2005 12:04 PM


Re: How Is Evolution False?
Ok let me make it very simple for you.
All the early western scientists started with the ideas from the bible. Slowly but surely research has shown more and more that the world is vastly older than originally thought. Therefore it only makes sense that 200-300 years ago the best EDUCATED guesses would be much less than what more an more research has shown what we know now. Why would there be a lessening when reality shows an increase. Your argument defies logic. But back to my original question why does this make Evolution false?

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Message 105 of 161 (237801)
08-27-2005 7:00 PM
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08-27-2005 6:48 PM


Re: Responses to Message #95
Hoary why dont you answer. I clearly asked for the biblical passages for the following. YOu make assertions now back them up. [qs]1)
The Bible has been proven accurate with the predicted downfall of all nations mentioned.
Judah - 588 BC. Babylon (2 falls) - 539 & 518 BC.
Persia - 331 BC. Greece - 167 BC. Rome - 478 BC.
Constantinople - AD 1453. Papal States - AD 1870.
Ottoman Empire - AD 1918. Millennium murdered off - AD 1959.
Beast & False Prophet into the lake of fire (Rev 20.10) - going on today; and for last several years.[qs]

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