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johnfolton 
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Message 61 of 121 (177091)
01-14-2005 6:08 PM
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01-14-2005 5:41 PM


ramoss, Do you have any other instance within the bible that the word almah is refering to a harlot, someone not a virgin?

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Message 67 of 121 (177161)
01-14-2005 10:08 PM
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01-14-2005 7:28 PM


Poor wee Miriam
Brian, I agree there is two words used to call a woman a virgin, it used both words to describe Rebecca. It appears more correct of the two word choices almah was used to describe Mary, because it was using the word that would make this be both a young girl, and a virgin.
If the word bethu^la^h would of been used the child could of been born by an old maid. Truly alma^h was the more descriptive correct word for virgin in relation to this sign given to the House of David. If a young damsel was going to give birth it wouldn't be a sign, the sign was a virgin that was a young damsel shall conceive and would be called Immanuel.
kjv Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Gen 24:16 And the damsel5291 was very3966 fair2896 to look upon,4758 a virgin,1330 neither3808 had any man376 known3045 her: and she went down3381 to the well,5869 and filled4390 her pitcher,3537 and came up.
Gen 24:43 Behold,2009 I595 stand5324 by5921 the well5869 of water;4325 and it shall come to pass,1961 that when the virgin5959 cometh forth3318 to draw7579 water, and I say559 to413 her, Give me, I pray thee,4994 a little4592 water4325 of thy pitcher4480, 3537 to drink;8248
5927 ‛alma^h
BDB Definition:
1) virgin, young woman
1a) of marriageable age
1b) maid or newly married
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from H5958
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1630b
H1330

bethu^la^h
BDB Definition:
1) virgin
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: passive participle of an unused root meaning to separate
Same Word by TWOT Number: 295a
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Message 74 of 121 (177278)
01-15-2005 1:34 PM
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01-15-2005 2:44 AM


Brian, My Hebrew concordance says Immanuel is the prophetic name of the Messiah. When one calls Jesus the Christ your acknowledging God with us. In Matthew chapter 1 verses 23-25 it talks of what the Lord Jesus would be called both. Jesus and Emmanuel (Jesus Christ).
H6005
עמּנוּאל
‛imma^nu^'e^l
BDB Definition:
Immanuel = God with us or with us is God
1) symbolic and prophetic name of the Messiah, the Christ, prophesying that He would be born of a virgin and would be ‘God with us’
Part of Speech: noun proper masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from H5973 and H410 with a pronominal suffix inserted
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1640d
G1694
Ἐμμανουήλ
Emmanouel
em-man-oo-ale'
Of Hebrew origin [H6005]; God with us; Emmanuel, a name of Christ: - Emmanuel.

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