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thewordofgod 
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Message 196 of 221 (604469)
02-12-2011 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by thewordofgod
02-12-2011 1:51 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
A spirit of deception is a deceived Bible readers best friend. He always has the right interpretions.

The Christian qualifications for Bible study is to believe anything you want as long as you don't disagree with them.

There's more to life than meets the eye. That's why you can't see it.

Pastors are people who try to convince their flocks that Jesus lives in their hearts so they can keep living in their swell homes for free.

There's a reason the churches are preaching a false gospel today. The profits are much better.

Forgiveness doesn't come before repentance but it works great in Christianity.

God doesn't make Christians, they made themselves just fine.

Religious people always start out with the fruit of God and end up with the grapes of wrath when the truth is preached to them.

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jar
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Message 197 of 221 (604473)
02-12-2011 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by thewordofgod
02-12-2011 1:51 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
thewordofgod writes:


It is totally irrelevant who the real God is to say whether or not there are any contradictions in the Bible.

If only God understands "the symbolic meanings that he had written by his prophets and saints" then it was both a pointless effort and a useless tome.

The scriptures were only meant for God, not religious people who don't even know who God is.

Now that is really dumb. If the scriptures were only meant for god then they are pretty worthless and the god not very bright.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Message 198 of 221 (604475)
02-12-2011 3:04 PM
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02-12-2011 1:51 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
thewordofgod writes:

The scriptures were only meant for God, not religious people who don't even know who God is.


So the Bible is just God talking to Himself? How did the transcripts get into human hands in the first place?


"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"
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thewordofgod 
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Message 199 of 221 (604480)
02-12-2011 4:15 PM
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02-12-2011 3:04 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
ringo writes:

thewordofgod writes:

The scriptures were only meant for God, not religious people who don't even know who God is.


So the Bible is just God talking to Himself? How did the transcripts get into human hands in the first place?

God planned everything before creation and what we see today is exactly the way he planned it, right down to the tiniest of atoms.

This first age was only meant to reveal his knowledge in chosen bodies called the prophets, Jesus and us saints. God had the prophets write prophesies so he could interpret them at that right moment in the future while he's using the body of Jesus or a saint. God is the only one who understands the truth because he is the truth.

His prophets couldn't become sinless because the messiah hadn't been sacrificed yet so they had to write and speak for God without knowing who they are or understanding what they wrote or spoke. They simply obeyed God's commands to get obedient enough for God to use them.

Jesus was the first person to ever be made sinless but God had to change the DNA in his parent's seed so he was conceived without the genetic sins of the world. This enabled God to totally control the flesh of Jesus and make him do whatever he wanted him to do, according to his plans.

The body of Jesus was the sacrifice to enable the other chosen ones to become sinless saints through the process of hearing the gospel that Jesus preached and each saints preached once they became a sinless flesh. The gospel is the voice of God because God is using the flesh of Jesus and the saints. He created them to be his voice.

When it was the right time for God to reveal himself in one of his chosen ones, then he began to give him commands to confess and repent of his sins. Then God changed the DNA each time his plans called for it. Once God gets us sinless, then our thoughts are different. They don't have anymore deception in them and this is when we learn who we are.

We learn we were created as the light energy of God who put God's plans into action and formed all the atoms for the physical worlds and bodies we use. So we are God in the flesh of man and when we read the scriptures, it is God interpreting them. No one else can interpret them because they'll be deceived. They were designed with the truth and everyone else was made a liar.

The only reason for this age was to get this knowledge that's needed for our new bodies in paradise. We will wake up without the ability to speak to each other so this knowledge that's in our hearts, minds and souls will guide us to form a new vocabulary and language. So we had 6,000 years in this age just to help us get a new language for paradise but once we have this language together, then God can start revealing more knowledge as we speak for him.

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thewordofgod 
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Message 200 of 221 (604481)
02-12-2011 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by jar
02-12-2011 2:07 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
jar writes:

thewordofgod writes:


It is totally irrelevant who the real God is to say whether or not there are any contradictions in the Bible.

If only God understands "the symbolic meanings that he had written by his prophets and saints" then it was both a pointless effort and a useless tome.

The scriptures were only meant for God, not religious people who don't even know who God is.

Now that is really dumb. If the scriptures were only meant for god then they are pretty worthless and the god not very bright.

I would say that you're not very bright for saying such stupid things. God is in total control of everything according to his plans, which can never fail. If you think you can do better, then tell me.

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jar
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Message 201 of 221 (604482)
02-12-2011 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by thewordofgod
02-12-2011 4:18 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
thewordofgod writes:

jar writes:

thewordofgod writes:


It is totally irrelevant who the real God is to say whether or not there are any contradictions in the Bible.

If only God understands "the symbolic meanings that he had written by his prophets and saints" then it was both a pointless effort and a useless tome.

The scriptures were only meant for God, not religious people who don't even know who God is.

Now that is really dumb. If the scriptures were only meant for god then they are pretty worthless and the god not very bright.

I would say that you're not very bright for saying such stupid things. God is in total control of everything according to his plans, which can never fail. If you think you can do better, then tell me.

We are. In fact many people are telling you. We understand that what we write is meant for others to read and so try to write in ways that others can understand. We try to make sure others can understand us unlike the god you are marketing.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo
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Message 202 of 221 (604486)
02-12-2011 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by thewordofgod
02-12-2011 4:15 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
thewordofgod writes:

... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....


Did you even mention the Bible in your sermon?

It's a simple question: Is the Bible meant for us humans or not?

You seem to be saying that God has to zap the enlightenment to understand it into you. If so, why doesn't he dispense with the Bible altogether and zap the information into you directly?

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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"
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Message 203 of 221 (604488)
02-12-2011 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by ringo
02-12-2011 5:03 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
You seem to be saying that God has to zap the enlightenment to understand it into you. If so, why doesn't he dispense with the Bible altogether and zap the information into you directly?

Cant you see he is a prophet chosen by god to be the sole man on erth that can understand the bible.

you dont question prophets you just believe!

Now go and praise Thor

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thewordofgod 
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Message 204 of 221 (604491)
02-12-2011 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by jar
02-12-2011 4:26 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
jar writes:

thewordofgod writes:

jar writes:

thewordofgod writes:


It is totally irrelevant who the real God is to say whether or not there are any contradictions in the Bible.

If only God understands "the symbolic meanings that he had written by his prophets and saints" then it was both a pointless effort and a useless tome.

The scriptures were only meant for God, not religious people who don't even know who God is.

Now that is really dumb. If the scriptures were only meant for god then they are pretty worthless and the god not very bright.

I would say that you're not very bright for saying such stupid things. God is in total control of everything according to his plans, which can never fail. If you think you can do better, then tell me.

We are. In fact many people are telling you. We understand that what we write is meant for others to read and so try to write in ways that others can understand. We try to make sure others can understand us unlike the god you are marketing.

That's not how God communicates. He uses his saints to speak the truth and no sinner can understand the truth. That's why sinners aren't authorized to interpret the scriptures and teach them to others. All they do is lie to each other. The truth is meant for his chosen ones to hear and that's all. Once he makes his chosen ones a sinless saint, then he can use their body to speak through. It's always God who speaks through his saints but sinners don't believe it's him using my body.

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jar
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Message 205 of 221 (604492)
02-12-2011 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by thewordofgod
02-12-2011 5:49 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
thewordofgod writes:

That's not how God communicates. He uses his saints to speak the truth and no sinner can understand the truth. That's why sinners aren't authorized to interpret the scriptures and teach them to others. All they do is lie to each other. The truth is meant for his chosen ones to hear and that's all. Once he makes his chosen ones a sinless saint, then he can use their body to speak through. It's always God who speaks through his saints but sinners don't believe it's him using my body.

I'm sorry but that god is just stupid. What value is the "TRUTH" if sinners can't understand it?


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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thewordofgod 
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Message 206 of 221 (604495)
02-12-2011 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by ringo
02-12-2011 5:03 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
Did you even mention the Bible in your sermon?

I don't use sermons. That's false prophets who need to prepare lies to tell their congregation about some god they read about in the Bible. I talk about the Bible a lot and I also say scriptures.

It's a simple question: Is the Bible meant for us humans or not?

It's not meant for men to interpret and teach others with but that's all a part of God's plan to keep his people deceived from the truth. Only God can interpret the scripture and that's the only reason they exist.

You seem to be saying that God has to zap the enlightenment to understand it into you. If so, why doesn't he dispense with the Bible altogether and zap the information into you directly?

One reason is God doesn't have a brain, mouth, ears, eyes, hands, body, etc., which is needed to process his knowledge.

The main reason is that God planned everything before creation so no one has the right to argue why God did it this way. Do you have a better plan than God?


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thewordofgod 
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Message 207 of 221 (604497)
02-12-2011 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by jar
02-12-2011 5:52 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
jar writes:

thewordofgod writes:

That's not how God communicates. He uses his saints to speak the truth and no sinner can understand the truth. That's why sinners aren't authorized to interpret the scriptures and teach them to others. All they do is lie to each other. The truth is meant for his chosen ones to hear and that's all. Once he makes his chosen ones a sinless saint, then he can use their body to speak through. It's always God who speaks through his saints but sinners don't believe it's him using my body.

I'm sorry but that god is just stupid. What value is the "TRUTH" if sinners can't understand it?

Your arrogance and self serving answers are why God has to destroy you and everyone else. Why would he trust the truth with people like you?


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subbie
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Message 208 of 221 (604498)
02-12-2011 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 206 by thewordofgod
02-12-2011 6:04 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
It's not meant for men to interpret and teach others with but that's all a part of God's plan to keep his people deceived from the truth.

So your god is lying to people? How curious.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist


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Message 209 of 221 (604499)
02-12-2011 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by thewordofgod
02-12-2011 6:06 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
...why God has to destroy you and everyone else.

So not only does your god lie, he has to destroy everyone?

The only real question is why you think someone like that is worthy of worship.


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist


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jar
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Message 210 of 221 (604500)
02-12-2011 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by thewordofgod
02-12-2011 6:06 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
thewordofgod writes:

jar writes:

thewordofgod writes:

That's not how God communicates. He uses his saints to speak the truth and no sinner can understand the truth. That's why sinners aren't authorized to interpret the scriptures and teach them to others. All they do is lie to each other. The truth is meant for his chosen ones to hear and that's all. Once he makes his chosen ones a sinless saint, then he can use their body to speak through. It's always God who speaks through his saints but sinners don't believe it's him using my body.

I'm sorry but that god is just stupid. What value is the "TRUTH" if sinners can't understand it?

Your arrogance and self serving answers are why God has to destroy you and everyone else. Why would he trust the truth with people like you?

My arrogance?

My self serving answers?

I'm not the one making silly claims.

Do you have any idea just how evil the goddlet you market is?

You're new here so I'll try to help you.

This thread is in one of the Science based sub forums, one devoted to examining the Accuracy and Inerrancy of The Bible.

In the science area you are expected to support your position with evidence and reason.

It's certainly possible that you can provide some support for your position but to do so, you really need to move beyond just word salad and at least provoide some form of reasoned argument.

Keep trying, if nothing else it's possible that you might learn how to post something that might lead someone to reconsider their beliefs.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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