ConsequentAtheist writes:
In support of his previous:
quote:
"In fact, Moses and virtually all Israeli royals, were classed as gods."
See Exodus 7:1 and Psalm 82:6.
Not even close. You're understanding of Psalm 82:6 is particularly curious. You might wish to read it again, since it has absolutely nothing to do with "Moses and ... Israeli royals" (whatever those might be).
These passages are merely
the-tip-of-the-iceberg of evidence that Hebrew use of the word 'god' was much broader than ours. I have to wonder whether you have gone beneath the surface and considered the implications of these passages.
quote:
Ex. 7:1 - And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god [elohim] to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Ps. 82:1 - God [elohim] ... judgeth among the gods [elohim].
Ps. 82:6 - I have said, Ye are gods [elohim]; ... children of the most High.
Jesus used the quote from Psalms to justify calling himself
the Son of God. quote:
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, ... Say ye ... Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
In other words Jesus says, he is making a lesser claim. Please note that Adam was also called "the son of God." Luke 3:38
Why do I say, "Israeli royals were classed as gods"?
That one is less direct but nonetheless evident in scripture.
- Most Israeli kings incorporated a shortened form of the name of their God (YHWH) within their own name, much as did the kings of other nations with the names of their God.
- Of at least one king (Solomon) it is plainly stated that he is a son of God. 1 Chronicles 22:10
- Probably in reference to David, or Solomon, the psalmist writes:
quote:
The LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
The Living Bible reads: This is your Coronation Day.
- An alternative reading of Ps. 82:7, which in the KJV reads, "...ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes." is as follows:
quote:
...ye shall fall as one man, O princes
See footnote 'g', Revised Standard Version.
- Elohim is also translated 'judges,' and 'angels,' both of which may be shown to be functionaries of the crown.
So far we are merely looking at Hebrew applications of the word 'elohim' which we translate as: 'god.' The occasional capitolization (God) or pluralization (gods) is done at the discretion of the translator; presumably based upon context and the translator's impression regarding which 'god' is being discussed.
It follows, of course, that a 'son of god' is himself a 'god.'
About 'the LORD' (AKA - YHWH, Yahweh, or Jehovah):
The Hebrews took YHWH to be their unique national God. He is often called, "the God of Israel" or "God of the Hebrews," and frequently he is called, "the LORD God," or "God of Hosts [armies]" Interestingly, he is never called, "the God of everyone." It is imagined, predicted, that he will
become the God of everyone; just as he
became the God of Israel: an event accomplished through violence.
His behaviour, and his rhetoric are characteristically Autocratic. He often calls himself a King, and on more than one occasion he is called a 'man.' All this is consistent with a political system wherein God-kings, or Priest-kings, rule
in the place of God. Ancient Hebrews may have accepted this guy's claim to godhood but I do not.
'Nuff said?
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