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iano Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Where does one begin to start effusing over Stewart Copeland. I don't really know Crash as I was never that technical when it came to drums so couldn't analyse it in any objective way. He had things about him which just seemed to raise him above anyone else I've ever heard. You mentioned one yourself. His ability to draw so much out of snare/hi-hat/single bass drum (although his kit could be large in the tom-tom area at times)
- on just about every song on every album he never fell into just doing routine or being satisfied with repetition. Take Walking on the Moon for instance. If one wanted to copy him, one would have to learn the whole song as there is a constant stream of variation within the basic beat. Then he caps of what is an understated beat at the end of the song with a magical turn of riff - powerfully complex but never drifting from understatement. Real subtle stuff that could only be picked up by careful, concentrated listening. - when you drum you find yourself falling into grooves which are a function of body - your whole body seems to move in harmony and it is the body movement that allows beats and patterns to come into existance. SC pulled out beats that would be almost impossible to carry out if one were relying simply on getting ones arms to do the work. As you learned his beats you found you body coming into areas and complexity of movement that you never had before - he could play stupendously fast. At my very best, keeping up with him was nearly impossible. On either the first or second album there is a song called I think No Time (No time at all - no time this time is the chorus). Not only is it impossibly fast but the ususal flood of interesting patterns and beats never lets up and are executed at this same impossible speed. - he is fantastic to watch drumming. Again for body shape and sheer fluidity. What he has could not be learned ever. - Many drummers input has a central roll in shaping the mood of the song - I loved the shuffling beat of Totos Rosanna for instance. With SC however his influence shapes all the songs. His influence is more central to the whole shape of the band that any other I've ever heard - he was consistant throughout his Police career and there isn't an album which dissappionts in the drum area even though the songs themselves could be weak. My hero.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 1018 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
All the various ill-defined genres must come from the teen need to be 'unique' or 'innovative.' "I'm so cool I listen to nu-metal."
I'm glad you like the avatar, it's my personal favorite. I don't remember where I picked it up exactly, but found it on one of the various avatar sites. I can't say I'm a huge comic book fan, though I did read my fair share growing up and I still enjoy watching the TV stuff with my boy, but I do love the art.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 1018 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
... but you're right. Looked it up in the Urban Dictionary.
The only Emo I know is the comedian. lol I feel old.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
I allways thought of the Violent Femmes as accoustic punk I always thought of the Violent Femmes as "If David Spade formed a rock group." Don't get me wrong, I like them. But still. "I fail to comprehend your indignation, sir. I've simply made the logical deduction that you are a liar." -Spock
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Hal Jordan Inactive Member |
I love ti hear people describe their inspirations; I will give him another listen along with my so, as he plays the drums.
Apples to oranges be damned, I started him off on the first AC/DC album; not a single roll. Just straight ahead groove; I always wondered when I was younger why cover bands that played an AC/DC tune always seemed a bitt 'off'. The guitar and bass were exercises in simplicity, and so was the drumming; all that remained was good music. The drummers were apparently get bored and start adding flash which greatly detracted from the intent of the song. Thanks again, I will listen again to Synchronicity (my fave).
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iano Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Sorry for referring to you as Crash. The avatars are similar at a glance. Syncronicity is a good album but for the best drumming the first two have to be the best. The first was SC at sheer freeflow - staking his place. The second is more mature but still choc full of great riffs. Take the well known Message in a Bottle - their must be four or five different riffs withn the first minute. Set you sound system up so that you can hear the hi-hit with SC - its there he shines.
If your son doesn't fall in love with his beat I'll renounce my faith
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Hal Jordan Inactive Member |
Iano - I will do just that.
Incidentally my favorite band of all time has to Rush; not to compare Neil with Stewart, but from a drummer's perspective what do you think of him?
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iano Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
My mate was into Rush and Yes and it was them that got us interested in drumming in the first place. As an engineer I find I appreciate the fine mechanical to the grand, impressive mechanical. Its a bit like that in drums: I loved the technical intricacy of SC to the more lush power of Rush and Yes. I wasn't a big seeker of all kinds of styles anyway. My drumming was used more for bedding girls at post gig parties than anything else.
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Hal Jordan Inactive Member |
I got into the guitar to get girls (didn't work) and after listening to Randy Rhoads play Flyin' High Again, I fell in love with his style of playing.
He had it all from in my opinion; unmatched technical ability, recording savvy and a classical background that made one ask, "Yngwie who?" when he would tear off a descending melodic minor run.
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iano Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Only picked up the guitar myself a few years ago. Just for banging out songs in the worship group (I must smile at my Lords humor - he has me gigging again - but along the lines he prefers)
Bar the piano, I know of no instrument to raise the hairs on your neck like a guitar played well
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 1018 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
My fave band of all time has to be AC/DC with Bon Scott, although Back in Black has to be one of the best rock albums ever.
I don't listen to DC much anymore (I'm really digging the new stuff), but when I do, it makes me crave weed. lol Speaking of guitars, I just bought my 4 year old a guitar. He wants me to teach him how to play like System of a Down and Slipknot. I'm in trouble... This message has been edited by roxrkool, 02-10-2006 06:00 PM
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