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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 6382 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
quote: Please explain this - what does it mean ? What is a working numeral for a computer ?
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Your position has no integrity. You refuse to even recognize the unique birthing event of Genesis 38 which the Zarahites adopted to be their emblem (Red Hand). Once again WILLOWTREE, here is Genesis 38:
27: And it came to pass in the time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb. 28: And it came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first, 29: And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that, behold, his brother came out: and she said, How hast thou broken forth? this breach be upon thee: therefore his name was called Pharez. 30: And afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called Zarah. Please show where this mentions a Red Hand of Zarah. You keep saying people have no integrity yet you seem very reluctant to stop making unfounded assertions when they are shown to be totally wrong. This has been pointed out to you numorous times and you continue to make the unfounded assertion that there is any such thing as a Red Hand of Zarah. Unless you can show where the red hand of zarah is mentioned in Genesis 38 you need to retract your assertion. Isn't that called false witness? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
We shall see Crashfrog - we shall see. ...he said, from his subterranian lair, before resuming Bach's Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor. "Fools! I'll destroy them all!"
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
quote: to which Mangy Tiger reasonably responds.
Please explain this - what does it mean ? What is a working numeral for a computer ? and jar jovially replies: Well, a Unix computer will not run without 600 and the owner can't do anthing without at least 060 and everybody else needs at least 006 to do anything so chmod 666 is handy if you ever want to do anything but chmod 777 is definitely the mark of the beast. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2331 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
<< mumbles from somewhere buried in her text books....I thought global variables were the devil's plaything...now here we go with global access??
/cries and pulls the text books closed around her again Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
The text in your post contains the Red Hand as you know.
Your refusal to acknowledge the obvious but your ability to identify obscure fossils to be anthropon and what not exposes your position to be boldface deceit. The fact that the Admins share your worldview is the only reason you get away with your constant topic disruptions. You are an embarrassment to your persuasion as my own persuasion contains many undesireables like yourself/fundamentalists. I am greatly comforted that you must dog me with the exact same tactic of saying you cannot find the Red Hand which is only asserting contrary to what anyone can read for themself. This dishonest ploy compliments the evidence because to even acknowledge its existence is to accept defeat in lieu of the entire body of evidence. This message has been edited by WILLOWTREE, 09-24-2004 09:51 PM
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
666 is the perfect working numeral for computers. Please explain this - what does it mean ? What is a working numeral for a computer ? Mangy: It is an opinion based upon some data I read many years ago. I would obviously need to refresh my knowledge before I can state the point as a claimed fact.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Please show where the prophecy of the Red Hand of Zarah is in Genesis 38:
Since it might be in one of the sections that I did not quote, and to make sure that I am not quote mining, here is the complete text of Genesis 38:
1: And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah. 2: And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. 3: And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er. 4: And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 5: And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him. 6: And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar. 7: And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. 8: And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 9: And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. 10: And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. 11: Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter in law, Remain a widow at thy father's house, till Shelah my son be grown: for he said, Lest peradventure he die also, as his brethren did. And Tamar went and dwelt in her father's house. 12: And in process of time the daughter of Shuah Judah's wife died; and Judah was comforted, and went up unto his sheepshearers to Timnath, he and his friend Hirah the Adullamite. 13: And it was told Tamar, saying, Behold thy father in law goeth up to Timnath to shear his sheep. 14: And she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife. 15: When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. 16: And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? 17: And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? 18: And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. 19: And she arose, and went away, and laid by her vail from her, and put on the garments of her widowhood. 20: And Judah sent the kid by the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive his pledge from the woman's hand: but he found her not. 21: Then he asked the men of that place, saying, Where is the harlot, that was openly by the way side? And they said, There was no harlot in this place. 22: And he returned to Judah, and said, I cannot find her; and also the men of the place said, that there was no harlot in this place. 23: And Judah said, Let her take it to her, lest we be shamed: behold, I sent this kid, and thou hast not found her. 24: And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. 25: When she was brought forth, she sent to her father in law, saying, By the man, whose these are, am I with child: and she said, Discern, I pray thee, whose are these, the signet, and bracelets, and staff. 26: And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She hath been more righteous than I; because that I gave her not to Shelah my son. And he knew her again no more. 27: And it came to pass in the time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb. 28: And it came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first, 29: And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that, behold, his brother came out: and she said, How hast thou broken forth? this breach be upon thee: therefore his name was called Pharez. 30: And afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called Zarah. If you cannot point out where the Red Hand of Zarah is shown will you at least be honest enough to admit that there is no such thing? This message has been edited by jar, 09-24-2004 09:53 PM Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Classic example of a "debater" creating a post for the sake of not being humiliated/defeated.
Acknowledge Message 366 or cry for the Admin intrusion which is what you are really doing.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
WILLOWTREE whimpers: Classic example of a "debater" creating a post for the sake of not being humiliated/defeated. Acknowledge Message 366 or cry for the Admin intrusion which is what you are really doing. I'm not at all sure what it is you are trying to get me to say? In Message 366 you asserted that there is a Prophecy of a Red Hand of Zarah in Genesis 38. I cannot see it. In fact, what is mentioned is a red cord. No Red Hand. To make sure I was not only acknowledging you wrote post 366 but to be totally honest about it, I included the complete text of Genesis 38. All you have to do to support your assertion is to highlight the text that says there is a Red Hand of Zarah in the text I supplied. I tried to make this easier than adding up a column of numbers to help you salvage a little dignity. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 6382 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
Ok, no problem.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
It is an opinion based upon some data I read many years ago. I thought that you just meant that it was a legitimate number for computing; which it is, obviously, like any number. Did you mean that it had more significance than other numbers to a computer? Why would that be the case? Here's 666 in octets: 110 110 110 Other than being the same triplet three times, what's so significant about this sequence that it's the natural or inevitable choice as the leader for a unique ID scheme? Me, I wouldn't bother with octets, I'd use hexadecimal, like they usually do for unique identifiers. 666 in hex is 29B (or 02-9B as part of a MAC address.) This message has been edited by crashfrog, 09-24-2004 10:49 PM
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Peal Member (Idle past 4728 days) Posts: 64 Joined: |
"666 in hex is 29B"
It is 29A
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
"666 in hex is 29B" It is 29A Oops, you're right. Don't know how I messed that up; I was using the Google calculator.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Which is irrelevant, because those things aren't predicted in the Bible. You seem to have a staggering inability to separate the concept from the implementation. LOL. Some medium for implementation was implied in the prophecy. The likelyhood of it ever happening until recent tech was in place, was so remote that nobody, even students of prophecy took it literally.
In a culture with other mediums of exchange besides metal? Why on Earth would that be the case? Oh yeah, like some used shells and so forth, but by and large, the more civilized cultures have gone with coins with gold and silver being the stabilizing metal for keeping the economy stable.
But the metal coins were merely stand-ins for livestock, oils, preserved meats and grains, and other barterable items. The only reason they were "precious" in the first place was because they were easily minted into trade tokens. No.1. They were more than that. They were precious commodity which could be melted into beautiful desirabe jewelry, statues, medals or whatever. 2. They were a relatively scarce commodity, scace enough for the need to search, laboriously mine and prepare for exchange medium. The relative scarcity of them afforded the stability of the economy of a culture, so as not to inflate that economy as would things like shells, copper, and yes, paper. 3. They were a desirable commodity relatively easy to securely hide, carry on the person and transfer for things of larger size, value and quantity. 4. They were durable and corrosion resistant.
So what you're telling me is, in a society that had developed an abstract trading economy, banking, money changing, and bookkeeping, it would have been impossible to imagine a system where finances were abstracted, banked, changed, and kept in books? Impossible, yes, on a global basis. Note in the prophecy of Revelation 13 that none from all nations would be able to buy or sell without a number or mark in the forhead or right hand. BTW, THAT 666 HAPPENS TO BE THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT 666 IS THE NUMBER ASCRIBED TO THE CITIZENRY AS SO MANY ARE BELIEVING. THE TEXT DOES NOT SAY THAT. The number 666 has to do with identification of the beast. I have an hypothesis in mind as to how this identity may be discerned. It would require some time to explain this which I may do if I find time.
How dumb do you think people were back then, Buz? You honestly believe that nobody could have seen the writing on the wall? That bookkeeping was an easier way to deal with large sums of money than coinage? Frankly, Froggy, me forum friend, it's far dumber to argue in futility that it could be implemented globally without sophisticated electronic technology for implementing it.
How dumb do you think I am, to believe that nobody could imagine something that had been in front of them for 400 years? Mmmm, do you really want me to answer that'n, given possibility for fulfillment never happened for milleniums?
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