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Percy
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Message 149 of 385 (78971)
01-16-2004 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Buzsaw
01-16-2004 9:43 PM


Re: Dealing with 1947
Hi Buzz!
Part of your quote from http://www.errantyears.com:
>It is highly unlikely that a history of the early church would leave out
>the above three historically very significant events, unless it was
>actually written before the above events occurred. This would date the
>writing of Acts to about 62 A.D.
There's no reason for a narrative about a period ending around 62 AD to mention events of a decade later. What's more, the author of Luke and Acts was intent on making the narrative appear to have been written close to the described events, and so carefully avoided giving hints about the fall of Jerusalem, though he wasn't fully successful.
3. Your date of 70 AD for Luke is bogus anyhow, for the following reasons:
A 70 AD date is not Paul's date nor the evolutionist's date. The most widely accepted datings for Luke are all later than 70 AD. For example, this is from Studying the Synoptic Gospels by E. P. Sanders and Margaret Davies:
Scholars disagree a bit about when each gospel was written, but most would propose no earlier than CE 65 for the earliest - usually thought to be the Gospel of Mark - and no later than CE 100 for the latest - probably Luke.
Who Wrote the New Testament by Burton Mack, though it doesn't date Luke specifically, says:
Somewhere in the Aegean around the year 120 C.E., a great two-volume work appeared that expanded upon the gospel story of Jesus by adding a sequel called the Acts of the Apostles.
The Britannica is the kindest I can find to your suggested dating:
The Gospel bearing his name and the Acts of the Apostles were probably written during or shortly after the Jewish revolt (AD 66-73), although a somewhat later date is not inconceivable.
I'm not trying to make claims of who is right or wrong, only trying to point out that dates later than 70 AD are the conclusion of most of Biblical scholarship, and are not Paul's dates or evolutionist's dates.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 155 of 385 (79124)
01-17-2004 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Buzsaw
01-17-2004 5:42 PM


Re: Dealing with 1947
Hi, Buzz!
1. Obviously, you are of the more liberal theological mindset who reads and recognizes the authors of that mindset. I am not and most more literalist religious conservative authors I am aware of go with the earlier dates.
My views are based upon evidence rather than any preformed conservative or liberal mindset.
2. What documentation do you have for your claim that the writer of Luke and Acts had the intent of deceipt in writing these books??
I think the author of Luke wrote in the style of the time. In his own mind he practiced no deceipt, but merely passed on information he sincerely believed to be true in a form familiar and acceptable to his intended audience.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 156 of 385 (79125)
01-17-2004 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Buzsaw
01-17-2004 6:03 PM


Re: Dealing with 1947
The most important prophecy, that Jesus would return within some of their lifetimes, failed almost 2000 years ago.
--Percy

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Message 383 of 385 (158725)
11-12-2004 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 381 by DarkStar
11-12-2004 11:47 AM


Re: Buz, please ignore lame topics
Hi Darkstar, just wanted to let you know your signature appears to have a spurious carriage return in it.
--Percy

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