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Bio-molecularTony Member (Idle past 5407 days) Posts: 90 Joined: |
b00tleg: So, is there evidence that supports ID....scientific evidence per chance? TONY: I keeping giving you the evidence, peppered with common sense, and your religious background views keep getting in the way of seeing the light. The cell is(superhuman technology) bio-manufacturing machinery designed at the molecular level. The DNA programming (More superhuman Technology) has built right in to the software programming a sample of the kind of intelligence the creator has for designing artificial intelligent automated machinery. All that is lacking is you - for all this to click into that head of yours. To understand what we got here and what can be done with it. Here is superhuman technology staring you in the face (you looking at yourself in the morning) and all you need do is to understand is this is THE GREATEST TECHNOLOGY MAN HAS EVER SEEN.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Here is superhuman technology staring you in the face (you looking at yourself in the morning) and all you need do is to understand is this is THE GREATEST TECHNOLOGY MAN HAS EVER SEEN. Nice assertion. Now I suppose you will be providing evidence to back it up? (This is the Science Forum; evidence is generally provided here and elsewhere in science to back up one's assertions. I realize that if one is coming from a creation "science" background this may seem a bit of an imposition, but that's the way things are done in science.) Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
Here is superhuman technology staring you in the face (you looking at yourself in the morning) and all you need do is to understand is this is THE GREATEST TECHNOLOGY MAN HAS EVER SEEN. Yes excellent construction to cause bad backs, eye problems, rheumatic fever, arthritis etc. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Bio-molecularTony Member (Idle past 5407 days) Posts: 90 Joined: |
Nice assertion. Now I suppose you will be providing evidence to back it up? TONY: Let’s test it out.If DNA is superhuman programming, then it will take man many years to break the software code and fully understand the commands there in. If the cells machinery is superhuman technology, this too will require many years to just copy and understand this vast complexity of bio-molecular systems. If any of you are intelligent as any gods out there. Prove yourselves willing and ABLE to read out the DNA complex command structure for all too known and understand too. The world is hard at work here. Help then out PLEASE.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
You are still way short on evidence. Your suppositions are hanging in mid air, with no visible means of support.
I have highlighted some of the unsupported statements or assertions in your post:
If DNA is superhuman programming, then it will take man many years to break the software code and fully understand the commands there in.
If the cells machinery is superhuman technology, this too will require many years to just copy and understand this vast complexity of bio-molecular systems. If any of you are intelligent as any gods out there. Prove yourselves willing and ABLE to read out the DNA complex command structure for all too known and understand too. The world is hard at work here. Help then out PLEASE. In order to do science you have to start with evidence. We are waiting for you to present some. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hello Bio-MolecularTony,
TONY: I keeping giving you the evidence, peppered with common sense, and your religious background views keep getting in the way of seeing the light. The cell is(superhuman technology) bio-manufacturing machinery designed at the molecular level. Except that this is just your assertion and not evidence. Evidence is something we can each observe, and all I see are natural processes without need of any "superhuman" embellishment. These are the same processes evident in all life, the same chemical reactions within cells, year after year. Nor do I see how religious background enters into the picture: evidence is objective, religion is subjective.
... all you need do is to understand is this is THE GREATEST TECHNOLOGY MAN HAS EVER SEEN. Curiously it is not technology, it is biology. It is what happens in biological life. It is nature. Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
Hi B-MTony,
If DNA is superhuman programming, then it will take man many years to break the software code and fully understand the commands there in. That strikes me as being true.
If the cells machinery is superhuman technology, this too will require many years to just copy and understand this vast complexity of bio-molecular systems. That strikes me as being nothing but a repetition of the last point, just applied to organelles instead of DNA. There are two basic problems with this as an argument for design. Firstly, if we suppose that DNA is the result of incredibly complex, yet mindless physical/chemical processes, it would still take humanity many years to perfectly understand it. Also, we already know that DNA and cells are very complex. It has taken decades for biology to advance this far and it will take many more before our collective understanding of the subject can be perfected, if that is even possible. We know this. It's not exactly a prediction.
If any of you are intelligent as any gods out there. Prove yourselves willing and ABLE to read out the DNA complex command structure for all too known and understand too. The world is hard at work here. Help then out PLEASE. That's just very shoddy logic. Imagine that you designed a machine, a machine so complex and so different from what had gone before, that no-one on Earth could understand it. Imagine that attempts to understand the workings of your machine took many years. Would that make you a god? Of course not. It would certainly prove that you were amazingly smart, but it would have nothing to do with divinity. Indeed, that is the whole point of Intelligent Design type arguments. You're meant to be playing Hide the Bible... Mutate and Survive Edited by Granny Magda, : A little re-phrasing. "The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade
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Bio-molecularTony Member (Idle past 5407 days) Posts: 90 Joined: |
"Ultimately," says Michael West, CEO of Advanced Cell Technology, the firm at the cutting edge of these technologies, "the dream of biologists is to have the sequence of DNA, the programming code of life, and to be able to edit it the way you can a document on a word processor."
Condemned to be superhuman "DNA, the programming code of life, "Is anyone learning anything here yet? I did say this didn't I? Edited by Admin, : Reduce length of superlong link.
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
"DNA, the programming code of life, " Is anyone learning anything here yet? Yeah, I'm learning that you don't know what a metaphor is. What are you going to do for your next trick? I look forward to your evidence that life is just a bowl of cherries... Mutate and Survive "The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Is anyone learning anything here yet? I did say this didn't I? No, you're trying to make the supernatural out of it all. And for the supernatural there is no evidence. And no, your incredulity is not evidence. (See also tagline.) Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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dogrelata Member (Idle past 5340 days) Posts: 201 From: Scotland Joined: |
Tony writes: Intelligent people create simple and basic things more often then highly complex things. Man is simple, too simple. Man is not alive, but a machine designed to think he is. If this is true, I win you lose. For I am debating with a stupid machine that imagines it is a living creature, which exists in an illusion of reality so cleverly disguised as REAL. God has that made a fool out of all of you. The so call great debators lose by default for they are themselves not real persons, but artificial illusions of "LIFE", imagining there is no creator in there darkened minds. The joke is on you... it is you that does not really exist (As living) creations. All so-called life is technology - artificial - machinery.What, you can't see it. That's too bad...... Tony, I have to ask whether you’re actually a computer program trying to pass the Turing Test? . and if you fail, do you become Bio-degradableTony?
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Bio-molecularTony Member (Idle past 5407 days) Posts: 90 Joined: |
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Admin Director Posts: 13040 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Hi Bio-molecularTony,
It would be appreciated if you'd stop posting to this thread. Thanks. Please see Message 180 for a previous advisory about addressing the topic.
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Bio-molecularTony Member (Idle past 5407 days) Posts: 90 Joined: |
Admin: It would be appreciated if you'd stop posting to this thread. Thanks. Please see Message 180 for a previous advisory about addressing the topic. TONY: Do you have special "other threads" for "fools" like me?
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
You could ask to be put in the 'Showcase' forum.
TTFN, WK
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