Praise for the RATE Group

What does a scientific temperment resemble? I have met some pretty strange scientists in my life. And while your jumping on my back try Meert's. All he says is "JP is not a scientist" without anything to substantiate it.However you are correct and IF I were a biological scientist you would have a point (this being a biological debate with some re more scientific rad dating thrown in). The point being is my expertise is not used in these fields. Perhaps that is what you are referring to. However we all know that there are more scientific fields than those being bantered about on this board.

I have asked for specifics and all I get is "your posts...". As if his posts make him out to be a scientist. Some might while most do not.

Joe could you be more specific? All I can do is to think that just because I disagree with you is what makes you believe I am not a scientist. I am very positive if I were on your side you wouldn't say anything about me.

JP, let's start simple
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What I do helps people of today and people of the future.JM: The implication of this was clear enough that my science does not and is of no practical use.John Paul:
What YOU infer has nothing to do with what I said. I know some, maybe most, geologists use their knowledge for practical purposes. I never saidf nor implied otherwise. You however seem to be stuck in theoretical musings of what our planet looked like eons ago. Theoretical musings are fine & dandy but without verification have no practical use. This is why the theory of evolution, the common descent part, is very irrelevant to biology.Just so we are clear I was NOT addressing all geologists, just Meert.

But what if someone actually analyzes(ed) ionized molecules for an IMS? There is quite a bit of research and analysis in my field. Most is on the leading edge, ie no one else has done it.Were the Wright brothers engineers or scientists? Was Tesla an engineer or a scientist? How about Edison or Bell?Now it is true that my paid profession is as an engineer. However that does not stop me from doing actual scientific research in areas in and out of my profession. That is a fact of life that no one can take away.

MrHambre, It has already been shown that the theory of common descent is NOT needed for anything. IOW the theory that all of lifes' diversity owes its collective common ancestry to some unknown population of single-celled organisms that just happened to have the ability to self-replicate adds nothing in the way of knowledge nor is it used in any practical research venue.I have and still challenge any evolutionist to show us how the theory of evolution has added anything. Now I am not talking about change I am talking about life evolving from some population of single celled organisms. I have discussed this point with cetacean experts. They agree they can do their research without musings of whales evolving from some land mammal. The list is almost endless.

Mark24, Until it is verified I agree with your statement.

To Meert, All I can go on are your posts and your web pages. How was I wrong about geologists? YOUR inference was incorrect, as I have shown. As for attacks, LoL!!! That is ALL you do to me, Walt Brown and anyone else that disagrees with you.

MrHambre, as soon as you can present a case please do so. As I have stated I have issued this challenge before and am still waiting.What Watson & Crick testified to (if they did testify) and reality are two different things.

MrHambre, as soon as you can present a case please do so. As I have stated I have issued this challenge before and am still waiting.What Watson & Crick testified to (if they did testify) and reality are two different things.

John Paul actually says,
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What Watson & Crick testified to (if they did testify) and reality are two different things.
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When you deliver your Nobel speech, you can give your view of reality. Then the joke will be on us. Right now we're the ones laughing.John Paul:
That's it? That's your response? LoL!!! No I am the one laughing. Assertions, regardless if they are during Nobel speeches or not, are not evidence.