Praise for the RATE Group

hey, I never knew I was a creationist myself, as I had a paper submitted to Science which got rejected without entering the peer review process...
Not much later one or two articles which were similar in topic made it into Nature. So I could (a) claim that I have been discriminated against for my particular view of my field of expertise, or (b) accept the fact that submissions by people with a proven track record of publishing interesting articles are more likely to be considered.Science and Nature both have a lot of submissions, if the editors did not select prior to the refereeing process, they would go nowhere (and loose most referees for the sheer workload). So the rejection probably had absolutely nothing to do with him being creationist..best regards,
AlexP.S.: The paper shortly after got accepted into another very nice journal, so who cares..

hey all I'm saying is that they're also "unlikely" to publish anything that I come up with... life's hard.
So basically what do you expect if you're basing your science on a 3000 year old book. I bet you that if the creationists come up with a good scientific work they would publish it...

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I presented two cases. Neither case was rejected due to poor scholarship.

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No you did not.
You first dug up a quote saying that a particular journal was unlikely to publish a creationist article. And second, you came up with a case of editorial rejection and a claim of somebody else publishing a similar paper afterwards. I told you that as far as high impact journals go, this is normal practise (and I'm not even a biologist), so present your evidence or quit whining....
If somebody (even a creationist) has a significant contribution to make, he will eventually be able to publish it in some journal. If somebody is completely bent on publishing in Nature or Science, all I can wish him is good luck, but chances are that the paper is not going to be published....

I'm really sorry, if you feel that way. There was no intention on my part to induce a topic shift. No more posts from me in that direction: I encourage J.P. to open a new topic and present his evidence there. I'm looking forward to that discussion.On the original topic: Congratulations to the rate group for exposing themselves to mainstream science. This is certainly not an easy thing to do...best regards,
Alex