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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6138 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: Another question... How do you know that Buddism and Taoism predate the flood?
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6138 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: Allow me then to rephrase my question. How do you know that the Indian and Chinese cultures predate the flood?
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6138 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: The link you provided merely presented some dates without proving their validity.
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6138 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: You made the claim that certain cultures (Indian and Chinese) predate the flood. I am simply asking you what evidence your claim is founded upon. If that evidence is the carbon dating of the pyramids, please provide information on the tests performed to obtain that dating. If you have some other form of evidence, please present the details of that evidence. If you have made this claim without having any supporting evidence on hand, please admit so, find the said evidence, and resubmit your claims.
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6138 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: I may get to that eventually. Right now I am merely curious as to why our good friend is so sure that certain cultures predate the flood.
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6138 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: I) You have presented a date for the flood of 4500 years ago or approximately 2500 BC. As you are the first person in this thread to provide such a date, I would humbly request that you explain why you have chosen that particular one. II) You made a reference to the "mythical Noahchian flood." If I am not mistaken the mythology of the flood is still a matter of debate in this forum. You are, of course, free to express your opinion, but it might be better to do so in a different format than the one you have used. III) In regards to your first link, I highly doubt that the virtual health store can be considered an authority on Chinese culture. Yet, even if they were, they did not present any evidence for their date of 3494 BC. They merely asserted it as if expecting one to take for granted that they were correct. IV) As for your second link, NASA is definitely an authority on astronomical phenomena; however, their understanding of ancient Chinese might not be nearly as authoritative. This link, like your first one, failed to provide any explanation of why the dates presented should be accepted as valid. Thus I must once again revert to my question of, how do you know that the Indian and Chinese cultures predated the flood?
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6138 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: Allow me to refresh your memory... You stated, "If that is the case how do you explain the existance of religions that predate the flood that are still around today?(Buddism & Taoism for example)" In defense of that question you later stated, "...however the cultures that fostered these religions(Indian, Chinese) do predate the flood..." You made both of these claims regarding cultures predating the flood before any date for the flood was presented in this debate. If you do not know the date of the flood, how can you claim to know that some cultures predate the flood? Along the same lines if you require a date for the flood in order to obtain definitive evidence for cultures predating the flood, did you make your claims without definitive evidence of their validity, and do you expect others to accept those claims regardless of that absence? By the way, please notice that I said, "I may get to that eventually."Please also notice that I have not attempted to impose my will at all within this debate. I have simply expressed curiosity regarding your statements and dissatisfaction with your evidence for those claims. If I were trying to impose my will, I would hope that you would require of me as much evidence as necessary to prove the validity of my position.
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6138 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: Thank you, Tranquility Base. Through a quick calculation of the genealogies, I obtained a flood date of circa 2431 BC. Of course, that was a rushed calculation and, as such, is prone to error, but I will agree with you that a flood date of circa 2500 BC is in agreement with the Scriptural genealogies.
quote: Could you please provide some archeological evidence for the date of this Sumerian-like culture?
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