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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
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So you know how to use a dictionary. I'm impressed. Keep looking.
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Nice wordplay. But you may not realise that what you ask is more to the point than you think. Taking God out of the equation is among the effects of doing science. And one of the pillars of the scientific method is, indeed, doubt/uncertainty. So your deliberate misinterpretation of the word 'expression' has unwittingly led you to produce a rather sensible thought.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'taking God out of the equation' is an expression -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- an expression of what...doubt, uncertainty ??? quote:
Pssst... I'll let you in on a secret of rhetoric: don't overextend your metaphors. I did just that, and look what happened to your poor circuitry.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- we do know enough to take God out of at least some of the equations. And guess what? Without God, those equations work even better. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Which equations ???Now will you please stop moaning about those equations? BTW can you recommend any good books on logic preferably ones you've read ???
"An Investigation of the Laws of Thought: On Which Are Founded The Mathematical Theories of Logic and Probabilities", by George Boole. Since you seem to prefer old books, that's the one I'd start with. Did you hear about the dyslexic Satanist? He sold his soul to Santa. "It's amazing what you can learn from DNA." - Desdamona.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
a dyslexic insomniac agnostic do?
He sits up all night and wonders if there really is a DOG. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
Pssst... jar! Look back one page...
"It's amazing what you can learn from DNA." - Desdamona.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1533 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Parasomnium writes:
This made me laugh..thanks. What is this? Some sort of DIY theology? "One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
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______________________________________________________________________ Why would a god "heal" so many people who attend a freaky revival, but god kills this good minister with Lou Gehrigs disease? ______________________________________________________________________ Why even bother asking this phony question ? You have already answered it - there is no such Person as God and no such thing as Divine healing. You made your point, now go on and get lost. Has it ever crossed your mind that God doesn't give a shit about you ? It is apparent to me.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Has it ever crossed your mind that God doesn't give a shit about you ? Has it ever crossed your mind that if God's going to be a petty little pissant, he's not worth bothering with? Why do you even bother worshipping a God that acts like such an asshole?
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RingoKid Inactive Member |
...because he has a good marketing and PR division and people are so gullible
My God has a sense of humour so he acts like an asshole just to piss guys like you off...
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
My God has a sense of humour so he acts like an asshole just to piss guys like you off... I'm sure that's what Job thought, too - "Ha ha! Killing my entire family, reducing me to ruin, and inflicting horrible diseases on my person! Really got me that time, huh? Good one, God!"
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1533 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Ya Crash kinda reminds me of that scene in "Trading Places"
where the 2 Duke brothers bet 1 dollar and totally ruin Eddie Murphy and Dan Akyroid's lives. God : "I bet he wont curse me." Devil: "I bet he will if ya rain down some agony on him." Thats some message.
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Crashfrog quote:
______________________________________________________________________ Why do you even bother worshipping a God that acts like such an asshole? ______________________________________________________________________ What action are you referring to ?
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RingoKid Inactive Member |
Job is generally regarded as a fictional character...
...google >> book of job fictional << It's funny for someone who doesn't believe in God to believe in a fictional character who God interacted with... BTW...If God didn't have a sense of humour you wouldn't have a clown for a president and through all the suffering happening to us (the human race) in the present it will make us stronger and wiser in the future the lessons are for the living...
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
What action are you referring to ? The actions you ascribed to him - you know, not giving a shit about certain people out of spite.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
It's funny for someone who doesn't believe in God to believe in a fictional character who God interacted with... That would be pretty funny, except I don't believe that.
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MonkeyBoy Inactive Member |
Has it ever crossed your mind that God doesn't give a shit about you ? Are you a bible believing christian, WT? If so, would you please offer up a few verses that backs this up? I thought that (as it is says in John 3:16) God loved the World so much that according to the christian faith, he died for us. Does that sound like someone that "doesn't give a shit" about you?
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Your entire post ASSUMES that God loves everyone.
John 3:16 reveals that God paid the price for the sins of the whole world (everyone in it) in order to get the treasure out of it. That treasure is the focus of faith from those who respond to His redemption. In other words, the capacity to love everyone is there, but God does not love everyone, the individual must respond to God's love via "believing in Him". Other passages in scripture reveal that the desire to want to come to God/Christ can only originate from God, therefore if a person truly has no desire for God then the reason is because God is not drawing them. Hebrews says "Jacob I loved and Esau I hated". It means what it says - like it or not. People whom God has rejected for their premeditated rejection of Him all have a common denominator: They simply don't care about God or what He thinks of them. Desire for God, no matter how miniscule means God still wants you. The erroneous traditional belief of mainstream christianity is that a person can decide/pull the trigger with God whenever they want. The risk is that God may not want you......"whosoever wills may come".........your "willer" won't will - it is controlled by God. Whats the point ? Don't trifle with God. He may give up on you - His love is not a doormat. What I said to this troll Atos was to call his/her loaded question about healing for what it was - phony. People like Atos THINK they have rejected a God that is sweating their attention. Quite the contrary, God will court a person and give them chance after chance, but the risk of rejecting God one too many times is that He will cease hounding you. Atos question was a statement revealing his/her spiritual state - the state of an Esau or Saul - both of whom God gave up on.
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