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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Hmm, all I thought by the end of your story was,
"Well, I'll bet the woman he was supposed to have been on a date with is glad it's over because, man, he was completely self-centered."
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Regarding RE:A, Rodger Ebert said:
"The only reason this movie was made was to make money, and the only reason to see it is to spend money."
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Um, I don't think so. How long have you been reading his reviews, junior? It's been about 20 years for me. Ebert LOVES action films, and gives very fair reviews. I don't always agree with him, but to say he doesn't like action movies is just not true. He loved all of the Laura Croft movies, which I thought were pretty mediocre, and he supports nearly every single movie that comes out that is based upon a comic book. He really liked "28 Days Later", "Hellboy", the Spiderman movies, "Alien", and others. You do know that he wrote "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls", don't you? He just doesn't like bad movies. Are you telling me that RE:A is actually a good movie? Oh, and as for him being "old and stuck up", his "young" parner Roeper gave it a thumbs down, too, as did just about every other movie reviewer. Are ALL of them old and stuck up?
quote: Because it costs the same for me to go see a good movie than it does to go see a bad movie. I wouldn't care if the bad movies only cost a quarter to get into. The more people go to see crap movies the more crap movies they will make. Anyway, I think the last paragraph of his review is good, but the last line is especially good: Page not found - Chicago Sun-Times
What I was missing were more of the mutants from the first picture, where they were little monsters with 9-foot tongues. They have a walk-on (or maybe a lick-on) in the sequel, but it's no big deal. "Resident Evil: Apocalypse" could have used them, but then this is a movie that could have used anything. The violence is all video-game target practice, the zombies are a bore, we never understand how Umbrella hopes to make money with a virus that kills everyone, and the characters are spectacularly shallow. Parents: If you encounter teenagers who say they liked this movie, do not let them date your children.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: But action, even the new styles, isn't really that intense nor frightening. It's all just "wall of noise" video game stuff. Try watching "Alien". There is very little action, but it is one of the most frightening movies ever made. What you don't know about movies and grownups is a lot.
quote: Maybe boys under 25 are just too young to have any sophistication and taste yet. This message has been edited by schrafinator, 09-14-2004 08:14 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
But action, even the new styles, isn't really that intense nor frightening. It's all just "wall of noise" video game stuff. quote: Well, yeah. It's deadly dull.
Try watching "Alien". There is very little action, but it is one of the most frightening movies ever made. quote: "The Exorcist" is a psychological horror film. It is supposed to get inside of your head. If I am reading you right, what impresses you and makes you react is unrealistic depictions of explosions and violence rather than rather more realistic depictions of emotion. To have an impact in a movie like "The Exorcist", one must become emotionally involved with the characters so you care what happens to them and feel what they are feeling. If you don't get there, then a movie like "The Excorcist" will not do anything for you. There is a LOT more to producing a truly scary movie than making the audience "jump".
quote: Still sounds like a video game to me. Again, are you trying to tell me that RE:A was a good movie?
What you don't know about movies and grownups is a lot. quote: I'm sure that's true.
quote: I think so, most of the time.
Maybe boys under 25 are just too young to have any sophistication and taste yet. quote: What demographic does Hollywood cater and market to most heavily? I'll give you one guess. You know, you never did answer me regarding my question of why you never would think you would take the feminist side of an argument. Just what do you think being a feminist means? I am almost positive that you have some misconceptions.
quote: I would think that a blind date would be better, because it is in your power to affect how the date is going. You can't do anything about the poor quality of the movie. This message has been edited by schrafinator, 09-15-2004 08:29 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Yeah, and when I was your age I thought that "I Ran" by Flock of Seagulls was a really good song. It isn't. It's crap. It's really bad crap. But that doesn't mean I don't still love to hear it. Like crash said, eventually you will understand the difference between crap that you love and a really well-made, well-acted movie.
quote: Excuse me? Look, I don't mean to be harsh, especially after you basically told me that you are a feminist, but what you don't know about people who proclim themselves to be feminists is a lot. I suggest reading anything that Gloria steinem has written. There are several good interviews on line that you will find if you do a Google search on her full name. She calls herself a radical feminist. After reading her views, come back and tell me if you think she is a "feminazi". BTW, you do know that the term "feminazi" was coined by Rush Limbaugh, don't you? "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream. Women were doing quite well in this country before feminism came along."-Rush Limbaugh "Militant feminists are pro-choice because it's their ultimate avenue of power over men... It is their attempt to impose their will on the rest of society, particularly on men."-Rush Limbaugh
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Huh, and here's me foolishly thinking that modern feminism (continuing right now) is about being able to choose to do what you want to regardless of your gender.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I don't think that, and neither do any of the women I know who also call themselves feminists. What kind of feminists are we, then, brem, crash?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I guess I don't see this obsession with vaginas and sexuality. I see lots of activity regarding abortion rights, but not quite enough regarding pay and benefits equity.
I think we need to, unfortunately, make a division between academic feminism, in which these poor women seem to have to make their writings as unintelligable as possible in order to gain approval, and the regular, everyday, common sense feminism which is about fairness. I know you're with us, brother.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I think it's you who are stuck somewhere, bren, WRT your view of feminism. In my entire circle of many friends, coworkers, and aquaintences who call themselves feminists (there are many men among them), none of them think men are evil or can't be feminists. Oh, and I think that contracycle has a good point WRT the valuation of woman's work in the home. Remember also, that when they were needed to work in the factories during WWII, many women got a taste of what it feels like to earn their own money and work outside the home and many realized that they liked it. Were they given a choice to keep their jobs when the men came back? No, they were forced out simply because they were women. I agree with you that there was a misguided attitude in which the job of homemaker was disrespected by the feminist movement during the 70's, but previously it wasn't even considered an option for a man to stay home with the kids and for the woman to be the primary breadwinner of the family, let alone expect him to do any of the housework or the childcare, let alone for a woman to want to not get married and concentrate on her career, etc. I would actually say that the seed of the 70's faminist movement was planted in those thousands of women who were forced out of those jobsafter WWII. There is an intersting book called "Perfection Salad" which examines the way US society tried to keep the 50's housewife happy by providing her with every modern convenience applience and food and by promoting the "domestic arts" and "home economics". Just who are these feminist who advocate the hatred of men? This message has been edited by schrafinator, 09-17-2004 09:22 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I think that we should include it in the gross national product, and we should also compensate for the lack of a social security payment that women/people who are homemakers do not get to contribute to, thus having "worked" their whole lives but not getting anywhere near as muchfrom the government. Oh, and fuck you. I'm not brain washed. Are you usually this insulting and angry around this issue? You don't care what me and my coworkers and frinds think? Fine, I care even less about what academic feminists think.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: But Gloria Steinem is probably the most famous feminist activist of all time, but she is neither an academic, nor a fan of that silly academia.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So, you didn't answer my question. Many of my friends, coworkers, and aquaintences, some of whom are men, consider themselves feminists. We don't know anything at all about "women's studies" academic feminism. What kind of feminists are we? Also, could you please substantiate the claims you made regarding how valued women were before the second wave of feminism in the US and why it wasn't a big deal that they were discriminated against based upon their gender in college admissions, hiring, career advancement, and wages?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Can you please answer my question about who these "mainstream" feminists are who are advocating the things you say they are?
Perhaps some citations, links, names? I hear this kind of thing all the time about "those feminists who hate men and blame them for everything" but nobody can ever seem to name them. I'm not saying they don't exist, but come on, name them, and please show how they are considered part of "mainstram" feminism and not part of some academic, largely irrelevant and ignored fringe.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: There are two fields where women have nearly always been much better paid than men in the same occupation: 1) modeling 2) having sex for money, in theater settings or film
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