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Well, if you don't think Christ is the way then I'm astonished at your Theology Jar. I know that you probably mean well, but to be honest, I belive that Christ done all those things Buz mentioned, and I guess it's just a individual thing but your ideas escape me. Nevertheless, if you believe in Christ you believe in Christ, I just hope these aren't seeds of doubt come to test you. Because if you doubt Christ done those things when he was in the world, when the noisome pestilence comes, shall you doubt all the more? I guess if these strange Theologies don't attack your faith then yours has earned just as much ear as the next persons. Yet, know this if only this small thing; That it's not by interpretation we interpret scripture, for it was not man that notioned it, but rather - it was the Holy Spirit, therefore, it is of the Holy Spirit that it will be understood. I urge you to look at what the majority of fruitful wisemen of the spirit say! Those who try and intellectually divulge the scripture on their lonesome, are listening to their own interpretations.
May I suggest you read the bible and be "open" and listen to what proceeds forth from God? If not, fair enough, your a champ anyway!
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5222 days)  Posts: 380 Joined: |
Interesting discussion indeed. However, I see very little hope that any non-believer in this board will open their minds to the accuracy of the prophecies foretold in the Biblical writ.
Buzsaw, although I realize that both you and I disagree on various points in doctrines--such as who is the AntiChrist and the beast of Revelation, I must still present the Bible as I believe and how I see it. I'm sure our differences will not negate the overall emphasis you and I are trying to make to the atheist/non-Bible-believer.  The point is this: The Bible is a genuine book, and when carefully studied, many truths are revealed regarding the end times and the fulfilling prophecies, and the reason why we are told these things is so that it may not only increase our faith that there is truly a living God guiding history, but that we might be saved and know how to escape the impending doom that will befall the wicked and all who defy God and His will for mankind. Nonetheless, I will present two articles in this thread (both on topics, as they are both related to prophecies and accuracy of the Bible). The first article will be an article that I wrote stating my beliefs and understanding of the Law of God based solely on the scriptures, and how God's law will be trampled upon at the end of time. The second article will reveal the prophecies of Daniel through his dream of the four beasts of Revelation. -------------------------------------------------------------- Article #1: The Law of God and The Sabbathby Lysimachus Before I begin, I wish to emphasize that it is crucial for us to be willing to study any controverted point in biblical interpretation for we have much inspired counsel from scripture pointing out the Christian's mandate to "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1 Thess. 5:21. I will begin with these texts: "Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name." Malachi 3:16 "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11 "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15 "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me." John 5:39 These scripture references and many others are most important, for God will have a people at the end of time who will be as closely knit together as it happened once in the Day of Pentecost: "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common." Acts 4:32 God will have a multitude of New Testament Christians at the end of time who will truly love one another and be ready for the final outpouring of the Holy Spirit. "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain." James 5:7 As God's people received the early and latter rain for their crops in their agricultural economy, so they are to receive the outpouring of the Holy Ghost in their spiritual lives. So there are two outpourings of the Holy Spirit for God's church. The early rain was Pentecost; the latter rain will be the final shower of the Holy Spirit which will prepare the church for the coming of the Lord. I am very interested in finding other Christians who want to come together in love and obedience to all the truth and be ready for His appearing. "Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth." Hosea 6:3 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come,they were all with one accord in one place." Acts 2:1 Now that this issue about our beliefs has come to the front, I think it's only proper that we should have a fair opportunity to at least present some of our Biblical ideas which could be subject to evaluation in the light of inspired revelation. If a man is believing error, or should we say, "doctrines of devils," that man deserves the opportunity to test whether what he believes is truth or not. We are told that "... ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32. So while the truth sets us free, these doctrines of devils, as the Bible calls them, place man in the "...cage of every unclean and hateful bird" (Rev. 18:2). Here is a partial sample of what we believe: 1. That the scriptures (the whole Bible) is the inspired and infallible revelation of God's will. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works" 2 Timothy 3:16, 17.(NT) Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." Psalms 119:105.(OT) 2. That the Godhead consists of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. a. That the Father is the supreme ruler of the universe, the one true God (John 17:3) b. That Jesus Christ, is truly the Son of the living God. Fully deity (John 1:1). One in nature, substance, and purpose with the eternal Father, yet a different person from the Father from all eternity. c. That the Holy Spirit is truly the living Spirit of God, of Jesus Christ, and the representative of the Father and the Son by whom they are everywhere present. The Holy Spirit has a special work in the redemption of man. His main office is to convict of sin and to empower the believer to obey and honor God and His Son. 3. That baptism is by immersion and that it is required of God for salvation. (John 3:5) 4. That Jesus Christ was incarnated in the likeness of sinful flesh, yet without sin. He redeemed us from sin by His life and death, resurrected and ascended to the heavens, and will soon return literally, visibly, and with power and great glory to receive His people to their heavenly home. 5. That our bodies are the temple of the Holy Ghost, and that we should therefore preserve optimum health by abstaining from drugs, liquor, tobacco, and anything that defiles the body. Modesty in dress should be observed and nudity is unbiblical. 6. That fornication is sin, and that marriage is for life except it be for adultery. 7. That all men are judgment bound, for we shall all have to stand at the judgment seat of Christ. 8. We believe that salvation is by faith alone without the works of the law. This means that salvation is a gift of God through Christ, by grace, through faith. Without the works of the law...means that the believer cannot offer his obedience to God in exchange for salvation, yet the sinner cannot be saved in rebellion and disobedience. All sin must be repented of, confessed, and forsaken before the believer is accepted in Christ. We must show our faith by our good works. Faith without works is dead and whatsoever is not of faith is sin. (There are many texts to show this wonderful truth of justification by faith, but I'm just presenting a brief outline.) Sin is the transgression of the law: "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." John 3:4.
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23 In order for there to be sin, there has to be a law. The law is the constitution of the universe. There can be no judgment without a law, since "by the law is the knowledge of sin." Rom. 3:20. "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." Romans 7:12. We shall be judged by that law of liberty: "So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty." James 2:12.James mentions just two of those commandments in James 2: 10, 11 clearly referring to Exodus 20. 9. That the Seventh-day is the Sabbath of the Lord our God, and binding upon all men as a perpetual statute. "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." James 2: 10, 11. Unquestionably, James is quoting from those commandments of which Jesus said, "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15. The eternal law--the 10 commandment decalogue written with the finger of God and given to Moses to ancient Israel was never nailed to the cross, for Jesus himself said "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:18 What was nailed to the cross was the ceremonial law of rites, ceremonies, ordinances, sacrifices, feasts which were a shadow pointing to Christ. "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." Colossians 2:14-17 The "sabbath days" referred to here are the feast days given to ancient Israel, such as, unleavened bread, feast of weeks, feast of tabernacles, etc. This has nothing to do with God's Seventh-Day weekly Sabbath--the day that God sanctified and hallowed, and of which he later said: "Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy" (see Genesis 2: 2,3, Exodus 20: 8-11). The Shadow sabbaths are more clearly defined in an article by Michael Schiefler entitled "The Shadow Sabbaths of Colossians 2:17." (You can read it here: http://biblelight.net/shadow.htm) A. The word "Remember" was to be a warning to future generations to not forget God's Sabbath which would be attacked through the conspiracy of the man of sin--the Papacy (see 2 Thess. 2:2,4). B. The word "Remember" was also indicative of the fact that the teaching and the Sabbath, and the principles of God had been passed on by word of mouth from parents to children, from generation to generation, throughout the patriarchal period. Notice that after the cross the faithful Jews who had become faithful Christians (that is, followers of Christ) continued to keep the Sabbath holy according to the commandment: "And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulcher, and how his body was laid. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment." Luke 23:54-56 In Romans 3:19-31, Paul develops the argument that man is justified by faith alone, and not by outward compliance to the law. The obedience to the law is the result of true faith. He begins his argument that the whole world is under the law, and guilty before God. Those who have faith, however, are justified. Christ is the one who justifies us by His righteousness. We cannot create our own righteousness by obeying the law. Since there is a danger that man may misinterpret the Biblical teaching and conclude that the law of God is not binding because we are justified by faith, he concludes his argument by warning "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Romans 3:31. In other words, since it is through faith that we are faithful and obedient to God in overcoming sin, we are therefore establishing the law whose function is to define and point out sin. Notice that he has already told us in verse 20 (last part), that "by the law is the knowledge of sin." In other words, the purpose of the law is to point out what sin is so that we may conquer sin through faith, through His grace alone! Paul even quotes from the 5th commandment in Ephesians 6:2, again demonstrating that the 10 commandments were not done away with by Jesus. "Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth." Ephesians 6:2, 3. It is also clear from the book of Acts, that Paul kept and worshipped only on the Sabbath day in Corinth, and not Sunday: Acts 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth; Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks. Acts 18:11 And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them. Paul was here preaching to both Jews and Greeks who were now becoming Christians and yet kept worshipping on the Sabbath day, not Sunday. Paul also preached in Antioch. In Acts chapter 13, Paul arrived in Antioch (v. 14) and went on the Sabbath day to the synagogue to preach (vs. 16-41). Now note what happened after Paul concluded his sermon about Jesus, the Christ:Acts 13:42 "And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath." Acts 13:43 "Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God." Notice then that the converted Jews as well as gentiles continued in the grace of God, and yet keeping the Seventh-Day Sabbath holy. It is very important to note that only men who are converted, of which circumcision was a sign in the Old Testament, will be saved. The New Testament refers to it as the new birth. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again." John 3:6,7. Only those spiritual Jews who believed and loved God were saved in ancient Israel. Only those who are born again (spiritual Jews) in the Christian church will be saved. The true Christian is a spiritual Jew, and so only those who are converted in the Old or New Testament will inherit the kingdom of heaven. The true Israel of God is one. (Please read the whole section of Romans 11:13-26). "But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." Romans 2:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:29 Remember that the Christian church today is modern Israel after the spirit, made up of both Jews and Gentiles. "For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" Ephesians 2:14, 15. Jesus abolished in His own flesh the law of commandments contained in ordinances (the ceremonial law) which separated Jews from Gentiles, so that today we are all one in Christ Jesus. He did not abolish the ten commandments, for He himself said "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." Matthew 5:17. To fulfill means to keep it, to honor it, to enforce it, by showing us how to keep the law correctly, and not legalistically as the Jews did. Jesus even warned in Matthew 5:19: "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." This is a very serious matter. The law cannot be kept without the love of Christ in the heart, that is why we are told that love is the fulfilling of the law: "Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law." Romans 13:10. Notice that here Paul has just listed just four of the ten commandments of the decalogue that we are to keep through love. "For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Romans 13:9. I trust you realize that the fourth commandment is a part of this decalogue. Note that Paul is clearly telling us to fulfil the law of Christ: "Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ." Galatians 6:2 Notice that as Paul continued to preach long after the death of Christ, they continued to worship on the Sabbath day: "And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God." Acts 13:44. It is important to note that modern research has established that the early Christians continued to worship on the Sabbath day according to the commandment 300 years after the death of Christ. Then gradually, Christians began to keep the seventh-day sabbath and the pagan "day of the Sun". As Christianity became paganized through the influence the early Catholic fathers who developed a church, half pagan and half christian, with the help of Emperor Constantine, who brought in the first Sunday law. But even through the Dark Ages the true persecuted Christians continued to keep the Sabbath holy in the mountains and caves running from the great persecution, first from pagan Rome, and then from Papal Rome. These Christians were, the Waldenses, the Huguenots, the Vaudois, Moravians, Albigenses, etc. Though severely persecuted and slaughtered by the fierce Catholic Church through the inquisition, they continued to faithfully keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. Solomon was shown the solemnity of the final judgment and the importance of obedience to the commandments of God in reference to this judgment in these words: "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Ecclesiastes 12:13,14. When the law of God is finally made void through national and international legislation, then no man will be able to buy or sell except he that keepeth Sunday Holy (the Mark of the Beast), then the faithful will be distinguished by keeping God's true Sabbath (the seal of God). See Revelation 14:7-12. God's true people will then be distinguished by their true faith and obedience: "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus Revelation 14:12The debate between Sabbath vs. Sunday will continue to agitate and escalate between Christians until it becomes a red-hot issue which God will use to test who will be faithful to Him and His law, and who will honor the man-made institution of the Catholic Church represented by the little horn of Daniel 7 who would think to change the times and the laws. God blessed and sanctified the Seventh-day Sabbath at the end of creation week. "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." Genesis 2:2,3. God rested as an example to man. God made the Sabbath a perpetual covenant and a sign between Him and the children of Israel forever! (Exodus 31:16,17). Remember that we are modern spiritual Israel today: "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy" 1 Peter 2:9,10. God made the Sabbath the fourth of His ten-commandment law (Exodus 20:8-11) in commemoration of His seven-day creation. Solomon reminded us in Ecclesiastes 12 that the whole duty of man is to fear God and keep His commandments. This included the Sabbath, and it was the duty of man, not just the Jews. The keeping of the commandments is a key issue in the judgment (see verse 14). Jesus told us that the Sabbath was made for man (not just the Jews) and not man for the Sabbath (see Mark 2:27). Isaiah reminds us that the Sabbath is to be a delight, and not a burden as the Jewish Pharisees made it. He also tells us that those who honor and keep his sabbath will receive the heritage of Jacob which was a type of the heritage of the heavenly Canaan and the earth made new. "If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. Isaiah 58:13,14. Isaiah also reminds us that the Sabbath will be kept forever in the new earth: "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD." Isaiah 66:22,23. If it were true that the Sabbath was no longer binding upon man after the crucifixion, then why are we told in scripture that we (all flesh) will keep the Sabbath in heaven? If it is no longer binding on earth, why will it be binding in heaven? If it was not obligatory for gentiles to keep the Sabbath on earth, then why will it finally be kept by gentiles in heaven? All flesh incorporates Jews and Gentiles alike. This is the grafting which Romans 11:13-26 is referring to, where Jews and Gentiles alike are grafted in as one nation making modern Israel after the spirit. Not after a bloodline. Jesus told us that the son of man was the Lord of the Sabbath: "For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day." Matthew 12:8. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. He never changed the Sabbath, but showed us how to keep it. The Sabbath not only involves physical rest from labor, but it is a symbol of the rest that Christ gives us from sin (see Hebrews 4:2-11). The majority of the Jews did not enter into that rest from sin because of unbelief. We are admonished by the author of Hebrews to enter by faith into that rest (Sabbath--a symbol of our rest from sin). Jesus came in person to give the book of Revelation to the prophet John in the isle of Patmos on the Sabbath day, the true Lord's day: "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea." Revelation 1:10,11. This Lord's day is the true Seventh-day Sabbath (Isaiah 58:13).The Sabbath vs. Sunday controversy will soon come to a head worldwide. The battle will be between those who keep the Seventh-day Sabbath holy, which is the seal of the living God described in Revelation 7 and 14, and those who receive Sunday sacredness as the false day of rest (the Mark of the Beast). The Beast is the papacy of Revelation 13 (1st part). The second beast of Revelation 13, which represents the United States that started out as a Protestant power and will make an image to the first Beast (Rome), will try to cause all through Sunday legislation to have to worship the day of Rome's authority. The true people of God will keep His commandments, including the true Sabbath, and they will receive the seal of God in their foreheads. I would be happy to share the meaning of these prophecies in much greater detail and depth, providing you are open to look at it. Feel free to print out and share this study with anyone you see is willing to come together and search the scriptures.May the love of Christ be with you all! Your friend, Marcos "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." Revelation 22:14. ~Lysimachus
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
Buzsaw,
I appreciate your feedback on my article. I acknowledge the fact that you would like to debate the issues regarding the beast and the anti-christ, what they are. You and I can discuss this later, of course. However, you must remember, that I am on the premise that the Bible makes it very clear just who the anti-christ is, and which nation the fourth beast is. This is my primary argument for supporting scripture, as no other prophecy is as clear as the Papacy representing the 4th (second phase/Papal Rome) beast of Revelation. Uriah is just one author. There are many many authors that agree with this same standpoint. We see these very prophecies unfolding as we the Protestant and Catholic powers begin to unite. I have in my access a number of articles that speak of the Catholic church's global plans to bring about "world peace"--which aptly demonstrates the verse "and all the world wondered after the beast". There is no other church or organization in all of history that fits the biblical criteria for the beast of Revelation. I personally believe the anti-christ will be Lucifer himself impersonating Christ (this is what will deceive the world to think he is the "Messiah", and he might be in the place of the "8th Pope" since 1798 (based on Revelation 17). We are at the 6th right now with Pope John Paul II. Remember, their are 7 hills encircling the Vatican. Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will show unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: Revelation 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. [Is not this what many churches have done? Hundreds of churches have slept in bed with the Papacy, and compromised with her doctrines. Remember, a WOMAN Always represents a Church (or religious system).] Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. Revelation 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: [Vatican City is just this, decked with wealth. You'll notice how the Pope holds the golden cup in his hand during many ceremonies. Cardinals and Bishops are also arrayed in purple and scarlet color.] Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Revelation 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. [The Papacy has killed and martyred more Christians over the centuries than any other organization] Revelation 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. Notice what is now happening in Germany. Catholic influence is permeating, and Sunday leglislations are already being pushed: Churches pleased German store's campaign to open on Sunday fails25 June 2004 Bielefeld, Germany (ENI). German churches have welcomed adecision by the country's highest court reaffirming the law on shoppinghours that does not allow Sunday trading. The law limits opening hours onweekdays from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m. and bans almost all shops from opening onS undays. Exceptions are made on request for shops at airports, railway stations, petrol stations and some tourist areas. [344 words, ENI-04-0391]Seite nicht gefunden It's coming folks...and coming sooner than we think. Prophecy is being fulfilled before our very eyes, and just like Paul Harvey says, "that little ol' lady was right once again!". As the world's natural disasters begin to strike nations, a call to bring the nations "back to God" will be heard loud and clear from the Protestant nations, and congress and various governments around the globe will "heed the warnings" by bringing Sunday Legislation. But God's true Christians will not receive the Mark of the Beast (Sunday sacredness). Scripture makes it clear that calamities will begin to increase as we approach the end of times: Luke 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. Matthew 24:8 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows. Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. [People like Jar, PaulK, and Charles Knight are going to hate me, and want to kill me And that is right folks, we have statistics that disasters are ON THE RISE! The occuring disasters globally should ring a bell to any atheist or Christian that Bible is right on track as to what is happening and will happen to planet earth. -------------------------------------------UN: Disasters on the rise Fri Sep 17 2004 09:32:29 ET Hurricanes, floods and other natural disasters hit a growing number of people worldwide and are on the increase due partly to global warming, the United Nations' disaster reduction agency said on Friday. More than 254 million people were affected by natural hazards last year, a near three-fold jump from 1990, according to data released by the inter-agency secretariat of the International Strategy for Disaster Reduction (UN/ISDR). The random nature of disasters renders mapping their impact more difficult as droughts in 2002 pushed the figure of people affected above 734 million.
But the long-term trend over the past decade shows a steady rise in victims, according to the statistics from the Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disaters at the University of Louvain in Belgium. "Not only is the world globally facing more potential disasters, but increasing numbers of people are becoming vulnerable to hazards," the UN/ISDR said in a statement. Hazards, ranging from storms, earthquakes and volcanoes to wild fires, droughts and landslides killed some 83,000 people in 2003 compared with about 53,000 deaths 13 years earlier, it noted. A lack of facilities such as schools, jobs and hospitals in rural communities is forcing more and more people to live in urban areas where they stand a greater risk of being affected, said UN/ISDR director Salvano Briceno. "Urban migrants settle in exposed stretches of land either on seismic faults, flooding plains or on landslide prone slopes," he said in a statement. In addition, cyclones and freak temperatures appear to be on the rise with 337 natural disasters reported in 2003 up from 261 in 1990, the agency said. "The urban concentration, the effects of climate change and the environmental degredation are greaty increasing vulnerability," said Briceno. "Alarmingly, this is getting worse," he warned. An onslaught of deadly hurricanes that have battered the southern United States supported theories that such storms were occurring more frequently, said John Harding, a programme officer at the UN/ISDR. "Look at the number of hurricanes this year, it is hard to keep up with all the names," he told AFP.
"The scientific community tells us that the intensity and frequency of disasters are very likely to increase in the medium-term due to climate change and that increase may well be occurring at this stage," he said. Underscoring the chaos inflicted by natural hazards, the latest storm to hit the United States -- Hurricane Ivan -- has killed at least 14 people, with three states declared official disaster areas and three cities under dusk-to-dawn curfews. ---------------------------------------------------- It's happening right under your noses, and the majority of you are blind to it. These disasters will continue to rise as we draw nearer to Christ's second return, and ONLY THOSE FAITHFUL WILL ESCAPE THEM! If people like Jar, PaulK, Brian, Charles Knight, mark24, Dan Carrol, and many others that do not fear God and repent, they WILL NOT receive the necessary shelter to escape the calamities that will befall the earth and continue to escalate. Heed my warnings. Now to redirect my point back to Buzsaw: At a later date, we can have a scriptural debate regarding our interpretations of prophecy. However, I feel that it is still my duty to present prophecy as I see it to the unbelievers on this board. This is why I shall continue to provide the second article, entitled "The Beast, The Dragon, and The Woman" written by Amazing Facts. And although I am NOT an SDA myself, I believe that many of the SDA doctrines regarding the Sabbath, the Beast, and the AntiChrist are right on track and are the closest to true biblical interpretation. Their may be "apparent" holes here and there, but when viewed as a WHOLE, the comparisons are mind shattering. There are just WAY too many holes for the Beast of Revelation to fit ANYTHING else other than the Papacy. Therefore, I shall continue in the next post. This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 09-20-2004 04:46 PM ~Lysimachus
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