"Looks like one for you, three for me"
I hadn't realised debate was about scoring points. But hey, if you need the validation...
The representation of the population may not be entirely accurate, but it is far less questionable than your previous post claimed.
The level of violence is far less imported to rape victims than the psychological damage of being totally dominated. The after effects include eating disorders, self harm, suicidal tendencies and high risk sexual behaviour, particularly in child rape victims. I am not going to post sources for this, I am too busy. Just have a look on journal sites and you'll find them.
In fact, the less violent rapes are often the MOST damaging - because of the after effects of self blame and self hate, as well as that non-violent rape are often committed by those to close to the victim, which leads to initmacy problems. Trust me, I know about this.
The legal questions were not me "blurring the issue" I thought you might have some thoughts where Tusko did not.#
A quick note though, with your counsellor idea we'd probably have even more child abusers evading prosecution than we already do. If the prosecution had to prove a lack of consent, not just that the act occurred, I don't think they'd convict very many people at all.
It's bad enough as it is.
I am also deeply suspicious as to whether ANY young child can engage in consensual sex without being coerced. Afterall, most of them don't even know what it is.
And no, men in the UK are not ashamed of having sex before 16. All the people I know who have done so are not ashamed about it, most are quite proud.
Women is perhaps a different matter.
I don't know of any case where a woman has been prosecuted for having consensual sex with an older child (like 14/15). The british justice system more or less ignores it.
I am saying PRECISELY that older boys DO boast about sex and are often very pleased with the events, but that doesn't change the fact that if the woman involved is much older she is abusing her position.
As for the bit about society, you misunderstood me. Of course societies views will affect people, I was saying that British society's views on under 16 boys having consensual sex is not going to cause any upset to them, because it is more or less condoned/applauded by their peers.
I stand by my concern about the figures for men engaging in under age consensual sex having increased psychological problems. I don't see this as consistent with society looking down on them, as I have stated. I cause, as you have said, is not clear. But the correlation is concerning.
I know monogomous gay couples, so it's clear that it isn't an inherent part of being gay. But maybe in British gay culture it IS acceptable / expected to be more promiscuous?
One more slightly off the point question. Would consensual child prostitution be acceptable to you?