Legal Death, Legal Life, Personhood and Abortion

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The same risk as you crossing the street. Should we kill all people who drive cars?

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Stop being obtuse.What are the risks to a woman's health that come from carrying apregnancy to term, giving birth, and postpartum?

riVeRrat No,since I never held her to blame.Being as I had older brothers I knew that couples rarely stay together at that age,though this did not make the crisis any less intense for my immature mind back then. No.I remained good friends with the family till I moved away.I did look her up a decade later to meet her and her husband and intended to keep in touch from time to time however my father passed away later in the year and I never did. My turn to ask a question. What do you think changed in your relations with your customers that was different from before? If you enjoy that by all means though it is serves only that purpose. Actually that is a summary kind of statement I thought up years ago after listening to the song We're Here For a Good Time by Trooper. This is the band I refer to.I am curious though what constitutes biblical?

Promoting it is, yes. The data is pretty clear; promoting abstinence increases the spread of STD's and pregnancy. How do you figure that? Of course there's such a thing as "gay marriage." A number of gay people are married in this very country, in several states. Clearly they don't, because they're even now getting married under the same rules as hetero couples. No, it's not. The destination of your agenda is the ruin of our society.

I have a better idea ... start another thread to do that stuff.Or are we all done with the issue of the essay and how it defines the legal aspects of abortion in a reasonable and useable manner?Just wondering.

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by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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Promoting abstinence is a bad thing? The only reason you think that correlates to the spread of STD's and pregnancy is because people don't like to be told what to do and do it as result of short-sightedness and rebellion.Not promoting abstinence is letting people take a chance. How is one to know if their partner has an STD?

Now please explain how this relates to the original topic.Thanks

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we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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According to the data, yes, it is. No, the only reason I think it correlates to the spread of STD's is because that's what the data indicates. But if what you say is true, shouldn't we take that into account?That is, unless your goal isn't so much to reduce the spread of STD's or pregnancy, but rather, to be able to call sexually active teens "sluts" with a clear conscience. In that case you should probably just keep going the way you're going. But stay the hell away from my future teenagers, please. Responsible sex education is about educating them about that chance, a chance they're going to take anyway - a chance literally everybody wants to take. Responsible sex education mitigates the risks of that chance to the greatest extent possible. Abstinence education, on the other hand, actually increases that risk by preventing teens from being prepared when - not if - they take that chance.

I think we have to be careful about all the different things that are tangled up here.If promoting abstinence means avoiding teaching birth control or prevention of disease then it may show up as a bad thing. That is the way that I think it is taught to often -- as the only thing to teach.So it may be that NOT teaching other things is the bad thing not that promoting abstinence is itself a bad thing.

C'mon, Ned.What do you think happens when you tell a teenager not to do something because its dangerous? I reccommend remedial viewing of The Fantasticks.

the issue of abstinance has nothing to do with the legal definition of life, death and how that helps to resolve the abortion issues as far as I can see.perhaps a new thread to discuss it? I believe there are statistics that show that the program is useless as it has no net effect on reducing either sex or pregnancy, and citing those would be a good start on that new thread.thanks

Life.

Well, since I started my business 4 years ago, I decided back then that I would run my business as God would have me run it.About a year ago, I came to know the Holy Spirit, and I came to a better understanding of the Lord. As far as the customers go, I can really pinpoint what I changed with them, I was always a good servant to my customers. Just now, I do everything as I am doing it for the Lord, even outside my business. I also tithe, and since tithing, my business has at least doubled.If I could compare one situation, one time I had this customer, and I knew there was no way she was going to pay me. She lived like a homeless person with junk piled in her house to the ceilings. It was lake front house, so she obviously had some money. Normally I would have walked away, but I prayed and God told me to do whether I got payed or not, so I did. This is just my opinion, but I would say words of wisdom, that speak truths about life. But really only biblical can be biblical.
I used to listen to Trooper, didn't they perform in the movie Heavy Metal?

Well its more than just abstinence that has to be promoted. Abstinence should be something that you want to do, not forced to.I hate statistics BTW, but I would like you to back that claim up also. Not my agenda bud.

Your right, another thread should be started, sorry.I think I am done with that issue, it was a good debate, and we have different outlooks on the ramafications of that way of thinking. That's what makes America great.Good debate.

I believe that the OP originator has requested that this thread be held to a discussion of "Legal Death, Legal Life, Personhood and Abortion" ​ Lets take OT discussion to a different thread.

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