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Faith 
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Message 5 of 291 (219713)
06-26-2005 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by CK
06-26-2005 11:41 AM


They say in their explanation of their closing of the Christian account that they are open to "all sectors of society" --- EXCEPT the Christian sector. Funny how that goes.
I'm for anybody denying business to anybody for any reason myself. Christians may have to start their own banks.

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Message 7 of 291 (219717)
06-26-2005 12:46 PM
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06-26-2005 12:39 PM


Re: for what reason?
BIBLE-believing God-fearing Christians. I don't recognize any other kind of course, but since you do, go ahead and take the name as well as our bank accounts. Steal it all. That's the way the world is going.
I certainly think the bank is unjust. What people believe is nobody's business. But I don't care. I'm a conservative and I'm not for government interference in such matters.

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Message 10 of 291 (219720)
06-26-2005 1:07 PM
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06-26-2005 12:53 PM


Re: for what reason?
Fascinating radio interview. Just fascinating. I'm foursquare behind Steven Green, but I also see the handwriting on the wall. Persecution of Christians is coming in spades, just as bad as it ever was in the days of the Caesars, and God's judgment is following hard on its heels for exactly the reasons Steve Green gives. I wonder if any eyes will be opened in all this or if the blindness is just going to get worse.

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Message 12 of 291 (219722)
06-26-2005 1:17 PM
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06-26-2005 1:06 PM


Re: for what reason?
The idea of "love and tolerance" that you have is not Christ's love and tolerance. He died for our sins, He never condoned them -- they cost Him His life for our sake. Love and tolerance in a society may certainly mean efforts to keep the society in obedience to the Law of God for exactly the reason Steve Green says - God's wrath will come upon that nation for its abandonment of Him, and this revisionist definition of His love and tolerance is one of the greatest offenses, putting good for evil and evil for good (Isaiah 5:20).
So sad to hear Green refer to the former Christian identity of England, its dependence on the God of Christianity in the world wars -- not that long ago but what an eternity ago ideologically -- and his fear for his nation's now coming under God's judgment.
America is certainly ripe for God's judgment for exactly the same violations of God's Law. I think the WTC blow was just a warning, but nobody's heeding it so something worse will no doubt eventually follow.

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Message 14 of 291 (219724)
06-26-2005 1:31 PM
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06-26-2005 1:09 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
Only true Bible-believing God-fearing Christians will be persecuted of course, exactly what I meant. For "persecuting" people by calling sin sin. Terrible persecution we do! Warn people about God's wrath so that they might try to save themselves. How evil we are.
It is this sector alone that is now the fair target of discrimination and intolerance. Every other is quite welcome. No reason to persecute the "Christians" who have sold out to the world's agenda against God's Law. The injustice is patent, but we knew it was coming some day. I think it's now at the door.

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Message 15 of 291 (219725)
06-26-2005 1:33 PM
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06-26-2005 1:30 PM


Ned beat you to it. It would help to read the whole thread before responding don't you think? Yes "bigots" are now fair game. All the terminology has been gathered for justification of the lynching. String us up as Nero did and set a match to us to light your garden path.

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Message 18 of 291 (219728)
06-26-2005 1:48 PM
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06-26-2005 1:44 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
You used the term "bigot" to describe the views of Steve Green, which I share, did you not? Where's the misquote? I merely went on to point out the logical outcome of your trend of thinking, whether you recognize it or not.

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Message 22 of 291 (219734)
06-26-2005 1:56 PM
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06-26-2005 1:52 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
Take it as a prophecy if it doesn't make sense to you. It's coming. You'll recognize it when it comes. The terms "bigots" and "intolerant" are the wedge. The UK bank is just another of the growing expressions of it. It's coming.

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Message 23 of 291 (219735)
06-26-2005 1:58 PM
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06-26-2005 1:55 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
The ridiculous lying hyperbole and false accusations of such a post as yours are all part of what I'm talking about.

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Message 26 of 291 (219738)
06-26-2005 2:04 PM
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06-26-2005 2:01 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
Believe what you want but stop trying to impose your wrong beliefs on the rest of us.
Now I'm IMPOSING MY BELIEFS on you? Wow.

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Message 27 of 291 (219739)
06-26-2005 2:07 PM
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06-26-2005 2:01 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
And now you are accusing me of racism too? MY kind of bigotry? Who is "maligning" whom here?

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Message 28 of 291 (219740)
06-26-2005 2:08 PM
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06-26-2005 2:00 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
You are tarring ordinary Bible-believers with fringe people.

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Message 30 of 291 (219745)
06-26-2005 2:23 PM
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06-26-2005 2:11 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
Not the Branch Davidians, not the murderers of abortionists, not the killers of Matthew Shepard. All misrepresentations. I couldn't get into one site and I didn't check the last one or two.

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Message 47 of 291 (219791)
06-26-2005 7:25 PM
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06-26-2005 3:27 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
Faith, if you feel that a class of person is bad and should be persecuted in some way for what they do, then you are by definition a bigot.
I think people should do as they please but not do it in anybody's face, such as in parades down main streets, and not be given any special status by the government for doing it and not be allowed to change 6000-year-old crosscultural tradition to accommodate what they do (gay marriage), and not be subjected to any kind of persecution for it.
Guess what, I also think bigots are human beings and to attack personal beliefs no matter what they are, including bigotry, such as by denying services to them, makes the deniers worse than bigots. Leave people alone.
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Message 49 of 291 (219795)
06-26-2005 7:47 PM
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06-26-2005 2:25 PM


Re: for what reason?
I seem to remember something in the bible that goes, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Show me where objecting to homosexuality on the ground that its support by the society will bring God's wrath on the society is throwing a stone. Seems to me the stones being thrown are being aimed at Christian Voice and on this typical EvC thread, at me.
Thanks for the rest of your vote of confidence. Let's see, I've got Chas Knight, crash, you, jar, Ned, and who all else here hating my guts for what, for saying that I think the bank has the right to deny business to whomever, and that being a Bible-believing Christian I agree with Steve Green, who is trying to save his nation from God's wrath.
Nobody cared about his sad plea that Britain once called on the God of the Bible to protect her in two world wars, and now she's thumbing her nose at that God?
I guess not.
No sane society has ever given active support to any kind of sin against God's Law. Protection of course, since we're all sinners, but government or any kind of official accommodation to such behavior calls down judgment on the society.
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