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Topic: Pat Robertson shows again why the Christian Right is such a laughingstock
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
What's wrong with Chavez? He's popular, the people love him, and they support him. Is it so wrong to have a president that is well regarded/supported by the people? What buisiness is it of ours what social policy a democratic leader, in another country, want's to implement? A social democracy is hardly "Leftist Ideology", Europe is largely socialist. ABE: Arg... well, I know socialisim is usualy percived is on the left. But the way folks talk about this guy makes him out to be a total comunist or something. This message has been edited by Yaro, 08-24-2005 01:16 PM
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 44 of 232 (236458)
08-24-2005 1:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 42 by Monk
08-24-2005 1:04 PM
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Re: Retraction?
Sugar coating the heat? Ya. I heard the whole segment on the radio, Robertson clearly advocates assasination. Here is the transcript: 'Christian' Pat Robertson calls for the assassination of Venezuela's President Chavez
In a direct transcript of his August 22 The 700 Club broadcast Robertson clearly says: There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent. You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... this is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 48 of 232 (236463)
08-24-2005 1:41 PM
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Transcript
I posted this in reply, but it seems no one noticed it. Here is the whole transcript:
In a direct transcript of his August 22 The 700 Club broadcast Robertson clearly says: There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent. You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... this is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 61 of 232 (236502)
08-24-2005 3:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 60 by randman
08-24-2005 3:13 PM
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Re: Howard Dean
sounds like a far cry to me.
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 63 of 232 (236515)
08-24-2005 4:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 62 by Tal
08-24-2005 3:46 PM
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Re: Howard Dean
What if George Bush or Karl Rove would have said this? They wouldn't. Hell, you talking about people (Bush, Rove) who praised Strom Thurman.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 62 by Tal, posted 08-24-2005 3:46 PM | | Tal has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 64 by Tal, posted 08-24-2005 4:30 PM | | Yaro has replied |
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 65 of 232 (236523)
08-24-2005 4:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by Tal
08-24-2005 4:30 PM
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Re: Howard Dean
so, could the republacan national commities get "this many people of color" in a single room?
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 68 of 232 (236535)
08-24-2005 4:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 67 by randman
08-24-2005 4:52 PM
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Re: Howard Dean
randman, Ya, I don't doubt it. But dean was just having a rub on the Republicans. The republicans do it all the time against the Democrats, so what's the big deal? Tal was comparing dean to the nutjob Pat Robertson. I just don't see how that quote puts him in the same league.
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Mangy, Actually it's pretty clear. I'll post the transcript again for you:
In a direct transcript of his August 22 The 700 Club broadcast Robertson clearly says: There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent. You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... this is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
And I don't believe we've ever voiced approval for oppression by any foreign government, regardless of their size, power or trading status. No. Then why do we support Israel?
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
They've been oppressed by violent terrorists for decades, enemies all around them. Ummm... you don't think those people opposed to them have any legitimate claims? Or do you think their in the 'violent opposition' game for shitz and giggles?
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 147 of 232 (236772)
08-25-2005 11:02 AM
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Reply to: Message 136 by Tal
08-25-2005 10:47 AM
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Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
Man, you have no idea what poor is. I've been places in the US where people don't even have electricity let alone a TV of any kind. If your idea of poor is TVs and Nikes, you got another thing comming. ABE: You should see some of these little imagrant, and black people towns we have in florida. Out in the middle of places dominated by swamp and cain field. Dirt roads, shantie houses, no plumbing. This message has been edited by Yaro, 08-25-2005 11:04 AM
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 150 of 232 (236779)
08-25-2005 11:15 AM
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Reply to: Message 148 by Tal
08-25-2005 11:06 AM
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Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
RACIST!!!!!!!!! ??? I have been to rural towns in florida populated by imigrants and migrant workers. Many from hispanic origins. Other rural towns I have seen are populated predominantly by blacks. Stating facts is not racist. I am not citing coralation between race and economic status, simply that these towns have some very impovrished people. I can't name the town off the top of my head. We travled thrugh them on a road trip thrugh backwater florida I took with my bro. a few years back. I'll dig up a roadmap, and maybe even post some pics when I get a chance.
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 152 of 232 (236784)
08-25-2005 11:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 151 by randman
08-25-2005 11:23 AM
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Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
Well, I don't know about the legal status of the towns. But some of the towns were simply poor suthern towns with REAL americans in them. I agree that many people below the poverty line have it better in this country than in others, I'm just pointing out that there are still places in the US that are right out of the 3rd world.
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Re: Go without health care?
...while the staff deals with indigents with rashes & head colds Right, they are indegents so their lives are less valued.
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Re: Go without health care?
I interpreted your statement as suggesting that indigents were the major problem in the ER. I was mearly pointing out that they have just as much a right as you do to be there. Maybe I missunderstood your statement as it seems you and I agree.
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