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Phat
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Message 3 of 232 (236312)
08-24-2005 2:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
08-23-2005 10:16 PM


Obviously not Christian, but....
Even though I do not think a preacher has any business in politics, is it not in our best national interests to prevent leftist ideology from infringing South America? God knows how this would affect our already challenged economy. I say that we should quit pretending and just take Saudi Arabia...The U.S. needs oil...period!

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Phat
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Message 31 of 232 (236429)
08-24-2005 12:01 PM
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08-24-2005 9:27 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
Of course I start these types of arguments merely to stir up controversy! As a Christian, I would never support Pat Robertson or any political Christians in any degree! What I AM suggesting is that realistically, America is on a downward decline economically and many of the middle and upper middle class conservatives are scared that they are taking the brunt of the economic shift.
As a grocery worker who has toiled for fifteen years to make $16.00 an hour, I shudder at the prospect of wealthy corporate cost cutters combined with consumer demands for a labor force more along the lines of $8.00-$9.00 an hour---hardly a liveable wage.
The blame is of course the wealthy Capitalists on one hand, but it is futile to fight them. They will always have money. Collective anger, consequently, is on the masses of Third world humanity that want a piece of the action.
Chiroptera writes:
Well, South America is not ours, it is the South Americans. The South Americans have first dibs on their natural resources to improve their lives. If we were true capitalists we should be willing to pay a fair price for the use of those natural resources; we have no god given right to such a mind-boggling degree of wealth.
Yes, this is correct. But what does it mean? If the Third World gets to develop all of their stuff, we will soon be a second or third rate economic power that will be wallowing in our debts and struggling to compete with these eager foreigners. (Part of the reason for the current Iraq War!) The typical liberal response is that we need to use our educational system and remain competitive that way. Many of us are too busy and/or too reluctant to go back to school. We want our uneducated blue collar jobs to remain at high standards...not lost to hungry and eager third world workers.
Yes...what WOULD Jesus do? He would tell us that life does not consist of the things that one possesses. Right Wing American "Christians" are a spoiled and pampered bunch. They will never take the prospect of a diminishing economy as anything that Jesus ever mean't to happen to us...the center of His benevolance!! Like Chris Porteus says, a revolution is coming...and it won't be pretty to the conservatives. The liberals will survive it because they are more open to socialist solutions aimed at the wealthy eliists....the very group that the conservatives somehow want to protect. I doubt, however, that the people will be able to easily pry the 90% wealth out of the 2% elitists without a total economic collapse. It is easier to just collectively bully the wealth out of the masses....a very unchristian solution that Jesus DOES NOT like!
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