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Author Topic:   The beginning of the jihad in Europe?
Philip
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Message 111 of 301 (258166)
11-09-2005 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by CanadianSteve
11-07-2005 11:32 PM


Re: CS's Anti-Tolerationalistic Stance
I appreciate your competent refutation to Crashfrog and to others (especially your 3 references).
Why should I become beclouded by such *tolerationalism* taken to its extreme?
Over and beyond our numerous political-religious sins that mar our present and past . I’d surmise:
1) Such tolerationalism might ultimately kill tolerationalists and *innocents* (Evos, YECs, Islamics, and whatever).
2) Would the blood of those innocents be upon extreme tolerationalists (like Crashfrog and/or myself) as well? (I don’t know?)
3) Excellent LAW (like the law of Moses) seems ultimately required to address such lawlessness *at home*: I.e., driving out the lawless aliens, stopping oil-trade with the aliens abroad, destroying all feasible levels of contact with those aliens (militarily), etc.
4) Repeatedly *Turning the other cheek and martyring our families to murderers* (like the Anabaptist law of Christ) only invites Islamic terrorists to continue persecuting our children.
5) Teach our children the abomination of Easter-Islamic religion.

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Philip
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Message 127 of 301 (258239)
11-09-2005 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by jar
11-09-2005 2:56 PM


Re: CS's Anti-Tolerationalistic Stance
Sorry jar ... my surmising is surmising, even questionings of which I myself stated (above) “I don’t know”. My highly reactionary conjectures to CS’s bloody French-Islamic articles (did you read them?) seem to defy “why”, “how”, etc. responses. I view them as on topic.
As for establishing the most excellent law(s) to exterminate France’s *poor* terrorists (whether Mose’s law, God’s, Christ’s, Ishtar’s, men’s, yours, mine, John Bunion’s, or whosoever’s), perhaps you yourself might suggest more coherently.
Note: Are you proposing that children be taught Moslem/Ishtar hate-religion *at school*; that this might help protect those children from Moslem jihad?
Does it (still) sound silly that France's people have *seen* enough terrorist-Islamic religion to eschew children studying it in their schools!

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Philip
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From: Albertville, AL, USA
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Message 129 of 301 (258245)
11-09-2005 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Yaro
11-09-2005 6:40 PM


Re: How about more coherent law against pre-terrorists
Yaro,
Might you (or Randman) suggest any real legislation (specific or general) for France's situation that might help avert France's *pre-jihad* terrorism?
I'd appreciate your patient feedback.
Philip

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Philip
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From: Albertville, AL, USA
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Message 131 of 301 (258256)
11-09-2005 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by CanadianSteve
11-09-2005 4:53 PM


Re: Terrorism: The Root Causes
Thanks for that 4th article (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out - David Horowitz) which I quote:
“Muslim bellicosity and violence are late 20th century facts which neither Muslims nor non-Muslims can deny,” ... worse in the early 21st century. Even Saudi and Pakistani commentators have pointed out that while not all Moslems are terrorists, almost all terrorists are Moslems . and most of these are Arabs.
These Arabs lead the charge against Israel, the Jews, the USA, Western civilization, Christians, other non-Moslems, and even against fellow Moslems who are deemed not “Moslem enough.” This global terrorist movement has been termed “Islamist” or “Jihadist,” as distinct from the vast majority of Moslems who are peaceful people and do not seek to subjugate the world to Islam. Some have come up with the term “Islamofascist” to demonstrate the similarities between the Islamist movement and that of the Nazis (inter alia, commitment to genocide of Jews, world domination, belief in superiority of their own religion/culture, belief in their right to rule). In short, the Islamofascist replaces “Deutschland uber alles” with “Islam uber alles.”
...The most frequently mentioned “root cause” of Arab hatred and pursuant terrorist assaults is poverty. This Marxist explanation is very seductive. Waging a war against poverty is far more appealing than waging a war against extremist Moslems.
...It should be obvious that the riots are staged by totalitarian Moslem governments"

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Philip
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From: Albertville, AL, USA
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Message 256 of 301 (258824)
11-11-2005 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by jar
11-09-2005 9:00 PM


Re: CS's Anti-Tolerationalistic Stance
Please realize:
1) I don't confidently have *the answer* to preventing French-Moslem jihads and 2) I am merely a wretched 9/11-victim's voice crying out for any solutions of which I conjectured a few.
*Straining knats and swallowing camels* (if you will) about grammar, religion, etc. seems way off topic to me, anyway.
If agreeable to you please conjecture tentative solution(s) to pre-jihad(s) in Europe (or point me to where you have).

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