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Author Topic:   The beginning of the jihad in Europe?
randman 
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Message 179 of 301 (258496)
11-10-2005 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Silent H
11-10-2005 12:56 PM


I'm interested
Can you show some links detailing this stuff? The reason I ask is it appears the area was ruled by various empires, not Palestianians, and then they separated the land based on majorities, with the majority Jewish area to be Israel or the area with a lot of Jewish presence to be Israel, and then Israel gained more land due to wars.
Now, I'll admit Jewish terrorists played a role and probably helped create the Palestianian terrorists by going down that path. Neither helped their causes, imo.

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Message 184 of 301 (258511)
11-10-2005 1:47 PM
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11-10-2005 1:30 PM


Re: I'm interested
Holmes, it was part of a large empire. Are you suggesting the original empire boundaries be maintained?
The lands had to be split. I think it was not done that well in places like Iraq, but the idea the area was already a nation-state is wrong.

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Message 187 of 301 (258541)
11-10-2005 2:37 PM
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11-10-2005 1:51 PM


Re: maybe others feel the same way
Maybe he feels he wished jar had not posted as it is a waste of time trying to have a discussion with him? That was my point.

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Message 189 of 301 (258602)
11-10-2005 3:48 PM
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11-10-2005 3:22 PM


Re: maybe others feel the same way
Thanks. It was meant to be humorous, but had a point too.

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Message 233 of 301 (258733)
11-10-2005 11:32 PM
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11-10-2005 7:54 PM


so true
It seems like there's some kind of ego war here at EvC. Truth is far less important than beating an opponent.
so true, CS....good posts on this thread btw

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Message 264 of 301 (258855)
11-11-2005 12:49 PM
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11-11-2005 11:55 AM


Re: Possible solutions
the 700 Club is the Christian jihad?
Oh, and didn't one of the family's that took such advice as your's wind up with their son in Afghanistan fighting as a Moslem against the United States?
Why not go to KKK rallies as well, and listen to them, "just like a child", you know to learn about their beliefs and realize they worship the same God as you do?
How about the Neo-Nazis? I suppose if the Klan isn't around, you can take your family to some of their meetings to hear a little more, you know, be open-minded and all.
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Message 290 of 301 (259024)
11-12-2005 2:14 AM
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11-11-2005 5:45 PM


Re: Possible solutions
Chro, your posts seem way over the edge, and CS just keeps responding in a reasonable tone, making good points.
What gives?
Anyone that knows anything about this issue knows the Palestinians hate Israel and want it destroyed. It's not debatable. Some of their propaganda, which they teach their people, is that Jews secretly capture and eat Palestininian babies. I know it sounds outrageous, but the ME in general does not have a free press outside of Israel.

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