Cartoons and common sense

I am simply stunned at the level of silliness and posturing on the part of {politically correct self-censor}concerning the appearance of a cartoon depicting a caricature of mohammed the prophet.The one in particular cartoon I am describing concerns the prophet mohammed depicted wearing a turban shaped like a bomb.I mean do any of these people think for themselves or do they get puppet implants at birth to allow control by others of their vocal apparatus? The claim by the {politically correct self-censor} is that their prophet declared that no images of his likeness be produced in order to prevent idolarity.I have 3 questions for these intellectually challenged persons. First,Is there some logical progression that leads you to think that a cartoon that is insulting to the prophet mohammed is somehow going to be misunderstood and therefore worsipped as an idol? Are you so bereft of reasoning and constructive thought?As for the number 2 question, cannot Mohammed defend himself? I would imagine such a significant figure in the Islamic world would be capable of being above whatever ridicule lesser people may through at him eh?And finally number 3. Could you tell me what makes you think that the rest of the world needs to consider sacred the same things you do or,indeed, do you demand that we follow your way of thinking?In any case get a grip and grow up.-----Adminnemooseus adds the following info and link, which was supplied by AdminNosy in the PNT version of this topic. Be warned - The above linked page has 6+ MB of .jpg files, of which the ones of interest are at the bottom. If you a slow internet connection like I do, it's going to take quite a while to load. - AdminnemooseusThis message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 02-05-2006 02:04 AM

IANAT WTF has faith got to do with it? Is Mohammed some sheep in the field that need be protected? Honestly, that is a empty a statement as I have heard in quite sometime here. It is meant to ridicule {and rightly so} so that people with these views will try to think about their actions for crying out loud. The artist is reflecting the perception that is being portrayed to them through the media of humour in print. Certain members of Islam are commiting violence in the name of Islam who's prophet is Mohammed. When the cartoon shows you that the impression this leaves is that of Mohammed {the founder of this great nation of Islam} taking part in the violence and cruelty then you can take from that the idea that this is the impression left on people and that it is the only message getting through.Not your struggle for the righting of whatever wrongs, not the oppresion you may or may not rightfully feel is occuring but simply unfocussed anger and war. This is why this is a futile and stupid response to the cartoon.So you feel insulted? Poor boy. What a crying shame. Insult is what occurs to the innocent martyrs and their victims unleashed through violence fomented by those with other agendas not from some caricature in a newspaper.Jesus H christ,what do you do when somebody slaps you in public? Pull a Jeffrey Dalmer on them? You don't like the cartoon? Make up your own and submit to a national newspaper and fight it in that way.GET a Goddamed brain for once.I live in a country where I am free to speak my mind as I do in these forums. You don't like what I say? Jeez. I guess you should go start smashing in windows of the Canadian embassy or hunt down Canadians who never once had an inkling of this conversation and kick their brains out eh?Or maybe you could come to Edmonton and have a go at me hmmm? Or perhaps you could trade an insult with me online and try to grind me down.It won't work since I try not to use the excuse that the world dictates how I feel. My emotions are ,and always have been,mine. They,therefore,are my responsibility and not yours or any others. How does this equate? If I go down into Harlem or the KKK and I insult someone face to face and get stomped for it fine. I have no problem with that. That is one on one and personal. The Islamic community involved in this is attacking people and property unrelated to the issue. How does this show the world that the cartoon was off the mark? Do you seriously think that an armed response is way to foster understanding of the issue? If so,then why stop there? Why not just declare war and we can unleash the hounds and see where that leads ok? I think not, don't you? What is this bullshit? We,the people here, are "your Western countries". You can lump us all into that generalization even though,in the same breath, are asking us not to do that to Muslims?
I am not supporting anything against Islam. Islam is far stronger than some silly cartoon written in a newspaper.Or at least I once thought it was.
And again you are shifting the responsibilty to others. The Islamic world is uniting against the west because they choose to and will use some lame excuse to justify it. Just get it over with. Say you cannot stand the west,for whatever reason, and be done with it. Quit pretending that the west is the cause of all Islams grief because that is not the case anymore than Islam is the cause of the rest of the world's problems.I also see that you live in Texas. Does this mean that you are included in "your Western countries" or do you not consider yourself a citizen of the nation in which you reside?This message has been edited by sidelined, Wed, 2006-02-08 09:01 AM

IANAT All well and good if religious duty is something you enjoy, however, for a person such as myself {an atheist} I have no such compulsion as I find it lifeless and dry. This is not to say however that I cannot appreciate the beliefs of others, it means only that I have no wish to participate. Democracy suits me just fine. This is most certainly true. However, the issue surrounding this topic of mine concerns those people who are rioting around the world over a cartoon! They are ,in my view, imposing their cultural norms upon those who do not have to live in that culture. Death threats and bombings and riots are not the acts of people concerned with culture either IMHO.The person who wrote the cartoon is living in a society where he is permitted to portray anyone he wishes to in expressing his opinion.If the rioters have a problem with that then they are free to choose that their representatives in government banish such media from their country.After all, the free elections are what allow the people a voice to do just that. Could it be that the majority of those in these countries do not have a problem with it? If.however, they do have a problem with it then why have they not implemented steps to prevent it? In any case, it is a lame excuse to incite violence. Irrelevant to the topic here my friend.Firstly the nation where this cartoon originated was not the US. We are not discussing the war on Iraq though you are free to start a debate within the auspices of this forum. I would gladly discuss such an issue with you. Fair enough as your business is indeed your own affair. {Fixed a quote box, and added some blank lines between paragraphs while I was at it. - Adminnemooseus}This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 02-10-2006 03:20 AM