Is it 'boring' being God?

"But, WHY did He create us? What's the point? If He didn't create us, then we wouldn't need saving, Jesus wouldn't need to have died, we wouldn't have all the suffering and hardships of life if we didn't exist.If He did create us with some of the traits of His mind then is it possible that He was bored and creation was for His entertainment?"It's part of his nature to want to reveal himself to others, this is where the trinity comes in. basically he can reveal himself to himself. this goes for glorifying too. He just wants to reveal himself to more people."He not only created Satan, but he created all the fallen angels the beings many consider to be the demons of Satan of which the Bible speaks, both OT and NT. The OT refers to them as evil spirits.Why create them though, what is the point?"the point is to give us a desision, serve him or satan.
its like the difference between a slave and someone who helps you because they love you."so free will in Ruth is really quite stifled."no, we always have a choice. a lot of the time good one is the sensible one . and who are you gonna want in charge, someone who barely knows a thing(humans) or someone who knows everything there is to know(God)."I honestly have great difficulty in comprehending how anyone can possibly want to worship such an evil being. A being that has no problem writing off 6 million Jews as part of a plan! This is absolutely horrendous buz, are you sure Lucifer got kicked out of heaven?"

This is prolly the number one miscommunication between christians and others. WE MAKE THE CHOICES, GOOD OR BAD!!!! sorry, just wanted to make sure my point got across . God uses those choices. He did not make Hitler kill all the jews, he used Hitlers sin for good. Thats not evil.

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the simplest organisms are the most likely to survive. stupid people are survivors

uhhhhhhh.....interesting perpective...I guess .
But anyway, what would he do with those who were following faithfully? and God created us perfectly, I don't think God could change anything with how he created us and still be himself.

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the simplest organisms are the most likely to survive. stupid people are survivors

God actually did create us perfect but we sure didn't stay that way. eh, whatever

I'm just assuming God is perfect, and a perfect being can't create something that is imperfect. We made the choice, with temptation but we still did.Edit: no I don't have a reference, like I said I'm just assumingThis message has been edited by dorkfrommarn, 01-31-2006 02:08 PM

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Well, I believe that being perfect is a prerequisite for a god.

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actually it's having all the omni's

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I would disagree because this nullifies your first premise. If God is perfect then God can do anything, thus He must be able to create something that is imperfect or there is something that He cannot do.

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sorry, when I say can't I mean won't

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Even though the dice were loaded well in God's favour. God keeping valuable information from Adam and Eve is not really a very nice thing to do, how can they make an informed choice?

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what information?

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As long as you are aware that the Bible contradicts your assumption.

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Also, when you say we were created 'perfect', what exactly do you mean by 'perfect'? I think different people have different definitions of 'perfect'.

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where does it contradict me.morally perfect.

Hey, Sorry, most of the people I talk to refer to perfect the way I mean. I think It's part of the society I grew up in. A lot of times people will say "cant" instead of "wont" since from a personal perspective can get confusing. Aorry if that didn't make any sense, I'm really tired right now. for an example lets say you tell a child not to do something, but they don't understand why because they wouldn't understand it. We are infinitely more ignorant than God, so there's a lot that he doesn't tell us yet. I think God made it pretty clear that bad things were going to happen if Adam & Eve had disobeyed. I don't think he was talking about morally perfect. and also there's the fact that back when this was writen "very good" could have mean't the same thing perfect, just a thought because of the language differences. God has the ability too, Jesus was tempted by satan. The difference is God is more powerful than satan, so he was able to resist him.This message has been edited by dorkfrommarn, 02-01-2006 04:45 PMThis message has been edited by dorkfrommarn, 02-02-2006 02:12 AM

I didn't say that they knew what death was. And second I was giving an illustration to show why God didn't tell Adam and Eve why they weren't supposed to eat from the tree. Look at my first sentence again, you just agreed with me. and I am sorry about saying "fact" that way, I exagerate like that sometimes. But please be more polite when telling someone they've missused a word, It's really not that big of a deal. And also you'll see in that sentence I used "could have" not did. In the begining Adam and Eve had the choice. They were not bound to anything. But humans today are bound to satan by birth. Thats the difference. I said God could, not did. thats like saying being able to murder and murdering are the same thing. And if I missunderstood you, then sorry.

Hey people,
I think that God is not bored, because of the trinity he has relationships with parts himself; confusing, yes . The reason for creating humans was to have more people to glorify him, he's an egomaniac; but the only one with the right to be I didn't read it all the way through, but this looks like a good definition of the Trinity, if you have any questions ask the people who wrote the article because they sure know more than meThis message has been edited by dorkfrommarn, 02-02-2006 02:27 AMThis message has been edited by dorkfrommarn, 02-02-2006 02:30 AMThis message has been edited by dorkfrommarn, 02-02-2006 02:32 AM

And although God didn't tell Adam and Eve why he didn't want them to eat the apple, but he did make sure they knew that he didn't.
We do have free will but the sin of past generations has made it so satan has more and more power to influence us. but instead of bound to satan I guess "his influence is stronger over us" would be much better.

hehe, no prob

I think that the reason God is not bored is mainly because he gets to glorify himself (made possible by the trinity) for all eternity. he doesn't entertain himself with anything we do but glorify him. this is because if were not glorifying him then chances are we're sinning, which he doesn't like.
I think in one of my previous posts I gave a link to a good explanation of the trinity.

a mirror that reflects an infinitely great person and a great tv show full of (mostly) people praising him is more like it. I seriously doubt God is boredThis message has been edited by dorkfrommarn, 02-14-2006 07:20 AM

first of all, a human's opinion in the matter of God being infinitely great has absolutely nothing to do in the matter. God can and will destroy those who oppose him, he's giving them a choice. I was exagerating to make a point. Obviously you don't understand what I am saying. God delights in those who praise him THAT is part of his "entertainment". It is in no way related to any reality program.

I don't see how any number of imperfect persons' opinions can change a fact. Thats only for us, because we aren't perfect. When you're perfect feel free to be as prideful as you want.

if you have a gun and someone thinks you don't know how to shoot doesn't affect whether you can shoot or not. opinion does not limit or define fact in any way The reason that we cannot be prideful is because when we are we lie to ourselves and to others about how good we are. And Because God is infinite he cannot think of himself greater than he is Definition of infiniteThis message has been edited by dorkfrommarn, 02-15-2006 06:16 AM