faith writes:
Yes, and all the EXCELLENT translators of the Greek into other languages translated THAT word "virgin" in their own language. Perhaps it is because Dinah was RAPED, she was not a SLUT, which is what NOT calling her a virgin at that point might have implied.
rape victim ≠ virgin. try again?
faith writes:
Who knows, but you aren't a translator and neither am I. I trust the experts. You should too isntead of having the arrogance to put your own ruminations over their expertise.
no, you don't trust the experts. you trust the experts who agree with the particular viewpoint you already subscribe to. did you fail to see the expert above who cited numerous examples in other works of greek literature where parthenos does not mean "virgin?"
faith writes:
I didn't say it "always" means "virgin." I said it is the Greek word that explicitly specifically DOES mean "virgin" however, however, and I also said that it was TRANSLATED as "virgin" into umpteen other languages by KNOWLEDGEABLE TRANSLATORS, which you are not!!!!
keep in mind, you're addressing this point at someone who probably speaks a little hebrew.
faith writes:
You are talking about modern translations. You are talking about Jewish translators who are positively allergic to any meaning that might validate Christianity. The fact remains that the Jewish translators of the Septuagint used "parthenos" and the GREEK-SPEAKING WRITERS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT understood it to mean VIRGIN, and all the translations done from the Septuagint into other languages used that language's term for "virgin.l"
except that you fail to read the bits that show that parthenos doesn't clearly and certainly mean "virgin" as in "posesses an intact hymen."
faith writes:
Where "Almah" is used in teh Song of Songs is not for the Shulamite but for the Daughters of Jerusalem who are virgins.
the reference to "undefiled" is in the singular. are the queens and concubines also virgins? maybe that "undefiled" noun means virgin?
[further editted to comply with adminpd's suggestion i identify whom i am responding to]
This message has been edited by arachnophilia, 02-28-2006 10:53 PM
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