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Author Topic:   Prophecy of Messiah: Isaiah 7
AdminBuzsaw
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Message 143 of 202 (294172)
03-10-2006 9:51 PM


Straying Off Topic
This thread is suppose to be about the Isaiah 7:14 prophecy relative to Jesus. We're straying off into another topic here as to whether Muhammed matches a Deuteronomy text. I suggest that if Rawel cares to discuss Muhammed relative to prophetic fulfillment that he propose a new topic on that since this appears to be headed off in that direction where it's not suppose to go. This thread pertains to Jesus relative to Isaiah 7:14. Thanks.

  
AdminBuzsaw
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Message 154 of 202 (294364)
03-11-2006 8:56 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by jar
03-11-2006 5:19 PM


Re: Wilfull Ignorance
Jar writes:
The biggest issue related to trying to make Isaiah 7 fit Jesus is that it can only be done through an act of Wilfull Ignorance. To make it fit you have to pick just one single verse while you wilfully ignore all of the rest of Isaiah 7 & 8.
For fairness and balance here, I believe Faith has a valid point in that a reread of the history of this thread will show that there has been corroborating Biblical text to support the creationist position here. For example, Matthew has been shown as one fundamentalist argument to corroborate the Isaiah reference to Jesus. There is a legitimate debate going here and certainly the fundamentalist position here has not been based on wilfull ignorance as you are alleging.
Unless any of us can produce imperical evidence to show that our position is the only possible or logical one, to say the the counterpart is wilfully ignorant is not the way to keep the peace in these debates and is, imo and apparantly by member Faith as in violation of Forum Guidelines, item 10a, (Always treat other members with respect...).
Having said the above, though I've addressed this in at least one other thread in the past, there is evidence in the context of Isaiah 7 and 8 that can be considered supportive to either side of the debate here, depending on ideology and mindset. Perhaps I have been remiss in failing to address this in this thread relative to my own arguments. After removing my admin cap I'll take care of this.
Let's work hard to keep the peace here, friends!
Abe: to add AdminBuzsaw status
This message has been edited by buzsaw, 03-11-2006 08:57 PM

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 158 of 202 (294377)
03-11-2006 11:10 PM


Jar: I have stated that I would myself address this. I have had to attend to some other things and share the computer with my wife, unable to attend to it yet. In the meantime, I would appreciate that you honor Forum Guidelines showing respect to other members. Wilfull ignorance is implying just that, when in fact your counterparts are obviously sincerely attempting to refute your arguments. That may be poorly effected attempts to refute in your view, but certainly not wilfull ignorance. If you wish to take this up in the moderation thread we can discuss it there. In the meantime we need to cool the tension here.
Faith: Not good to respond in kind to disrespect. This simply adds fuel to the tension. Admonishment to counterparts is certainly acceptable but not worded disrespectfully, regardless of how disrespectful one considers the counterpart to be.
Edited to fix typo
This message has been edited by AdminBuzsaw, 03-11-2006 11:12 PM

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 167 of 202 (294506)
03-12-2006 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by jar
03-12-2006 9:57 AM


Re: Isaiah Prophecy A Future Event
Jar writes:
Ah, but it is wilfull ignorance buz.
Jar, I take this as a personal insult that I am willfully attempting deceipt and willfully ignoring what your argument is. Either you edit it out of this post or talk to someone else who will tolerate your bullerigerant Forum Guidelines violations.
If it weren't that it is me you're insulting and it would be considered a personal vendetta, I'd suspend your hide for for a full day for repeatedly acting as though you were immune from what others get suspended for in blatant violation of forum guideline #10!!
Furthermore you are blatantly and bulligerantly defying admin admonition asking you to cease and descist inflamitory personal insult.
I'll leave off with you to let this matter be determined by someone else on the admin team.

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