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Message 9 of 302 (306687)
04-26-2006 10:23 AM

Reply to: Message 4 by R. Cuaresma
03-03-2006 7:15 AM

Re: Bible and Koran?

Hi R. Cuaresma.

If the Muslims addressed Muhammed as the "Only Prophet" of God then...

I don't believe the Musilms' felt Muhammed was the 'only' prophet of God. In fact, they believe Muhammed is the last prophet who received the 'complete' revelation of Allah.

World Religions writes:

He(Muhammed) also became convinced that he was the last of a series of God's prophets, who included Abraham, Moses, and Jesus among others, that these former prophets had had only an incomplete revelation of Allah, but that he had the complete and final revelation.

So, essentially, Islam sees itself as the completion of what others had started, i.e. Christianity, Judaism, etc.

Hope this helps.

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BMG

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Message 10 of 302 (306703)
04-26-2006 11:50 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by Heathen
03-02-2006 5:17 PM

Hello Creavolution.

Creavolution writes:

Are Allah of the Qu'ran and God of the Bible the same person?

From what I have been learning and from my text, Religions of the World, yes, they are one and the same.

Religions of the World writes:

The basic belief of Islam is that there is only one God, who is called Allah, the same God worshiped by Jews and Christians.

Lastly,

Creavolution writes:

Was the Qu'ran inspired by Allah in the same way the Bible was inspired by God?

I don't think it was "inspired" in the same way. As the text notes:

Although Christians and Jews take their Bibles seriously, human, though inspired, authorship is acknowledged. Such is not the case in Islam; the Qu'ran is the word of God: It is eternal, absolute, and irrevocable...It was literally revealed to Muhammed, who acted as s stenographer or loudspeaker for Allah, and has been transmitted virtually unchanged since the days of the Prophet.

What is incredibly intriguing is that Muhammed was illiterate. These "revelations" from Allah were all memorized and expounded to his companions; they were eventually committed to writing, and thus came into existence the Qu'ran, the scripture of Islam.

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BMG

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Message 34 of 302 (306773)
04-26-2006 3:51 PM

Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
04-26-2006 2:19 PM

Hello Faith.

They can't be. They do not teach the same thing and they do not have the same name and one is the Father of the Son of God and the other is specifally said to have no son.

True, the three Abrahamic religions are not exactly alike, but they do share many similarites:
1) The belief that there exists one God
2) This God initiated a covenent with humans to or through a prophet
3) This God gave to humans an "outline" of proper worship, ethical behavior, etc.
4) The belief in or employment of eschatology, doctrines concerning the end of the world.

I also believe that because different names are employed for the same being doesn't presuppose difference. Allah has roughly ninety-nine names that are used in the muslim tradition.

Yes they claim this but they also specifically deny what Jews and Christians believe about God so their claim is empty.

I disagree.

Religions of the World writes:

Islam respects the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians, but the Qur'an is understood to be God's final message.

My bold.

Judaism and Xianity "built the foundation", and Islam sees itself as the final piece of the puzzle.

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