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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Good call mate, good call.
My sanctimonies exactly
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Kissing Hanks Ass is the funniest thing I have read in ages!
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Iano, you can know (have knowledge of) anything. This does not make it real.
For years I 'knew' that people were cold, mean old bastards who only pretended to be nice to others. Knowing a concept does not make it true. It might be true, but it might not. There is room for error. This is what I have recently learned from this site about religion.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
If you say they are the same, then I could easily say that I "know" that Shangri-La exists, and scoff at anyone who doubts me quote: So, you agree that there is a difference between saying that Wichita, Kansas, USA exists, and that Shangri-La exists. Right?
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Excellent! I love it, too. Edited by schrafinator, : fixed quote box
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iano Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
I know you can provide proof of your knowing one exists and that you can't prove your knowing that the other exists. This might inform MY believing YOU. But it doesn't have much to say about what YOU know.
You must decide if you know or not.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I refuse to continue to play this game with you.
Your definition of "know" is useless. Who the fuck cares if you say you "know" something if you cannot demonstrate it to anyone else?
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iano Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Who the fuck cares if you say you "know" something if you cannot demonstrate it to anyone else? I do. Sorry for pissing you off Shcraf.
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I was gonna get on your case for preaching again, but you actually did quite well! Maybe you DO have a purpose at EvC after all!
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Who the fuck cares if you say you "know" something if you cannot demonstrate it to anyone else? quote: Most people would consider that a belief, ian.
quote: Sorry for getting pissed off, ian.
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iano Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
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iano Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
You are a strange one Phat. What on earth is wrong with preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ?
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
sometimes in our well meaning intentions, we drive people further from it.
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MUTTY6969 Member (Idle past 6220 days) Posts: 65 From: ARIZONA Joined: |
I wouldn’t mind putting down my religious beliefs in this forum if it didn’t seem like a certain few would just end up preaching at me like what is already happing to a few others.
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iano Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
For sure I can say things that upset people, things which stem from my own failings. But if you think you can talk about people being born sinners and that hell is the certain destination unless one is saved and that they are enemies of God and that Gods wrath is poured out on them this very day and that their ideas on morals are precisely that (to pick a couple of 'inflammible' topics off the top of my head) - without encountering anger and resistance then you are sorely mistaken.
Not that I compare myself to him in anyway, but go have a look and see what happens Paul in Acts where and whenever the gospel was preached. Do you recognise anything? Follow the softly-softly road if you like Phat. By all means empathise with the likes of Jar's gospel. Sure I fail Christ, but there are as many ways to fail Christ as there are to skin a cat. Leave 'hard' Gospel to those who are prepared to speak it Edited by iano, : No reason given.
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