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Topic: Open Question For Jerry Falwell (and those who agree with him)
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 22 of 180 (289536)
02-22-2006 11:26 AM
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Reply to: Message 11 by riVeRraT 06-30-2004 9:04 AM
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So, why did God let Satan do it? God IS more powerful than Satan, right??
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 52 of 180 (311887)
05-15-2006 7:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 49 by simple 05-13-2006 2:27 AM
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Re: Right on, Whisper
Let's see how they did that. They ripped off the faithful, put a minority amount of money into bibles and missonaries, and pocketed the rest for personal gain. True christians, every one. I personally find 'missonary' work disgusting. I find the methods of it disturbing, the disrespect for other cultures dishonest, and the goal of it immoral.
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 65 of 180 (312039)
05-15-2006 2:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by simple 05-15-2006 2:36 PM
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Re: Right on, Whisper
The preachers ripped off the faithful. The televangalists, the Southern Baptist Conference.. The 'Moral Majority'. And, missonary work is immoral in and of itself
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 77 of 180 (312351)
05-16-2006 8:28 AM
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Reply to: Message 66 by Faith 05-15-2006 2:59 PM
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Re: Right on, Whisper
You see, in my eyes, it is immoral to elevate a man into being a God.
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 80 of 180 (312437)
05-16-2006 12:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 78 by Faith 05-16-2006 8:32 AM
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Re: Right on, Whisper
On the contrary.. "CHrist" is not god. "CHrist" is merely greek for the term 'Messiah", which means 'annointed one". The "annointed one" is either a King (a human), or the High Priest of the temple (again a human). The Messiah is not a literal 'son of god', nor is the messiah a god. That is just claming a human person is a god. That is Idoltry. Not only that.. the missionary's do not do what is claimed in the New Testament about what Jesus said that if they won't listen, 'Shake the dust off your sandals and move on.' Missionaries don't do that. Edited by ramoss, : More stuff to add
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 82 of 180 (312603)
05-16-2006 9:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 81 by Faith 05-16-2006 7:39 PM
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Re: Right on, Whisper
Well, that just shows you don't understand the Jewish names from that time period. For example, Isaiah means "God is our salvation" The specific names you were talking about were specifically talking about Ahaz's son Hezeikel, not god. And no, Missonaries don't do that. They trade aid for conversions. As Bishop Tutu in South Africa said, "The missonaries came with the bible, and asked us to close our eyes and pray with them, when we opened them, we had the bible, and they had the land".
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 84 of 180 (312738)
05-17-2006 8:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 83 by Faith 05-16-2006 9:16 PM
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Re: Right on, Whisper
What you are failing to realise the concept of the Messiah is different in Judiasm. Also, the point you are failing to acknowledge is that the jewish names of the time were a description of God's attributes. God is our salvation is the literal translation of the name Isaiah, the prophet. Those term in Isaiah 9:6 was not speaking of some mythical savior to be born 700 years in the future. He was talking specifically about the son of King Ahaz, Hezeikal.
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 89 of 180 (312894)
05-17-2006 2:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 88 by Faith 05-17-2006 1:54 PM
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So who are those peopel from 2000 years ago that 'woudl not taste death' before the endtimes came? I mean, if you take the bible as truth, they have to still be alive.
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 104 of 180 (313152)
05-18-2006 9:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 91 by simple 05-17-2006 3:18 PM
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The grave yards are full of people who 'will have not tasted death' yet. How do you explain the following
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Hebrews 10:37 - For in just a very little while, He who is coming will come and will not delay. James 5:7-9 - Be patient, then, brothers, until the Lord's coming. . . You too, be patient and stand firm, because the Lord's coming is near. 1 Peter 1:20 - He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. 1 Peter 4:7 - The end of all things is near. Rev. 22:20 - Surely I come quickly.
Those indicate that the writers thought they would see the endtimes in their lifetimes. Didn't happen then.
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 113 of 180 (313375)
05-18-2006 10:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 112 by simple 05-18-2006 9:00 PM
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Yes, that is the viewpoint of a certain form of christianity. The 'prophecies' are so vaguely written it can mean anything.
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Re: a christian by any other name
Just to bring in another religons viewpoint.. in the Jewish faith, actions mean everything. SOmeone does not have to be Jewish to be rightous, but rather that is judged by their actions.
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 177 of 180 (325495)
06-23-2006 9:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 176 by nator 06-23-2006 9:52 PM
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Some people are just lightning rods for Irony. I just shrug, and let it flow.
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