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rgb Inactive Member |
I went to a book store earlier today and couldn't help but notice the number 1 seller Ann Coulter's book The Church of Liberalism: Godless. I sat down and began reading the book until I was asked to leave because the store was about to close. Against my better judgement, I bought the book.
After having read the first chapter, I have decided to pick at and disect Ann's outrageous claims. I think she is as ignorant as a six year old child attempting to grasp fields that take people lifetimes to study. I also think she has an ego as big as an elephant's erect penis. While it is within her right to blow as much hot air out of her butt as she just did with this book, I'm beginning to think that perhaps we should legislate free speech, especially when concerning academic fields where just about every regular Joe out there thinks he can speak authoritively on a subject after memorizing two words out of a text book on that subject.
Critique on "On the Seventh Day, God Rested and Liberals Schemed". Right away, I noticed that Coulter decides to use Romans 1:25-26 as an introduction and description for this chapter. I will comment on this when the appropriate subject comes up. Ann starts out exclaiming that liberals love to boast about their nonreligious commitment and declaring liberalism to be a religion. While I would personally like this to be the case, reality is far from this sensational nonsense. The liberal community is made up of people of all faiths and beliefs, all shapes and sizes, all ages and eras, and all ethnicity and nationalities. Instead, Ann assumes that liberals are comprised entirely of atheists and heathens. But directly to the point, many liberals are christians who value the christian ideals and teachings. The primarily identify themselves as liberals because they look to the future rather than the past, they want to address the dangers of manmade impacts on the biosphere, they value universal human rights over traditional bigotry, they respect ALL religions and philosophies rather than just christianity, they would like their children and their children's children to be able to take a deep breath without having overreations to pollen dominated air or smog dominated atmospher, ..... you get the idea. Coulter's rants include some rather outright strawmen and ad hominems. She claims that liberals believe through faith the following: "Darwinism is a fact, people are born gay, child molesters can be rehabilitated, recycling is a virtue, and chastity is not." (page 2, paragraph 1) Ann goes on to ask the question "If people are born gay, why hasn't Darwinism weeded out people who don't reproduce?" This question, or rather more of an assertion, assumes that when a person is born something, genetics has to be the reason. While it is true that genetics can be the contributing factor, others may include environmental impact on the mother, hormonal changes during pregnancy, etc. She also assumes that all liberals believe people are born gay. Again, this is simply not true. Noone knows for sure if people are born gay or not. What we do know is that almost all gay people believe they never had a choice. The third thing that's severely wrong with Coulter's assumption is that if it is indeed genetics then natural selection would move against such a trait. As a matter of fact, there is a hypothesis that suggests the homosexual trait(s) helps the family gene to be passed onto future generations. Survival of the fittest does not only include pumping out as many children as you can, damn it! Some species do take that approach while others prefer to have only a few but healthy children. The "gay uncle", instead of worrying about his own children, would help to raise his nephews and neices. Such characteristics have been observed in ape populations where infants in families with gay relatives have better rate and chance of survival and growing up healthy. This hypothesis closely resembles the Grandmother Hypothesis. But the most important flaw in Ann's logic is her presumption that if being gay is by choice then it is somehow bad. So what if a person chose to be gay? If he/she chose to be gay, then it is his/her right to do so. The constitution guarantees a person's right to "pursuit of happiness", and by golly if being gay makes a person happy and doesn't hurt anyone then why the hell would it be bad? Coulter's next strawman is "If gays can't change then why do liberals think child-molesters can?" First of all, not all liberals think child molesters can change. Hell, even some child molesters admit they cannot change. What liberals believe in is that we should try to help them all so that the ones that CAN be changed change. Some liberals such as myself believe that kid-loving is a sexuality, just like heterosexuality and homosexuality. And since it is a sexulaity, or so we believe, the mentality of the kid-lover cannot be changed. We, however, make a big distinction between kid-loving and pedophilia. Kid-loving is adoration and admiration from a distance. Unless you are Charles Xavier, you can't do anything about it. Pedophilia is when the kid-lover crosses the boundery and decides to violate another person's rights. In other words, some of us believe that pedophilia is another form of rape. To bunch kid-lovers and pedophiles together is like bunching heterosexuals together with rapists. Ann's goes on to ask "Why must children be taught that recycling is the only answer? Why aren't we teaching children 'safe littering?'" Repeat after me, we do not teach children that recycling is the only answer. There are many possible answers to our future environmental problems. We can start shipping our garbages to outer space. We can start dumping in people's backyards. We can start dumping them into the ocean. Hell, we can even start dumping them into Third World Countries. The fact of the matter is the garbage takes up space, just like everything that has mass. We can either ignore them and let our children solve the problem or we can reuse the reusable stuff. It's simple logic, people! And why aren't we teaching children "safe littering"? For crying out loud, we are teaching our children "safe littering" everytime we tell them to throw their garbage into the trash cans rather than on the street or on the lawn. I will continue to critique the writings of this anorexic hypocrite at a later time. Admins, I sincerely hope that this goes into a forum other than the book nook so people can discuss and debate. I'll leave it to you to decide where this will go.
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rgb Inactive Member |
riverrat writes
quote:I'm guessing you meant rgb rather than rob. I see 2 possible interpretations of your statement. (1) You haven't read the book and is only relying on my account to not like Ann Coulter's words. (2) You don't like what I said she said because you doubt that she actually said those things. Which is it?
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rgb Inactive Member |
riverrat writes
quote:Rat, my previous message was not meant as an attack or anything of the sort. I was truly confused. But if it makes you feel better, I was leaning toward 1.
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rgb Inactive Member |
nemesis jug writes
quote:Read the book again. Most of the claims she made are unsupported and sensational bullshit. Unfortunately, my copy of her book is on the other side of the planet right now. I'll have to get back to you on the specifics. quote:That's just it. Most of what is in that book are her outrageous opinions and are meant as sensational rally cries. They can neither be supported nor refuted. But read my original post again. I only looked through the first few pages of her book and I was able to find that many errors. quote:Let me guess, you're going to say that these "liberal christians" aren't really christians, right? quote:And your point? quote:Yes. What's your point? quote:Whatever you say, bob. Most of the christians on this forum might want to disagree with you there. quote:I'm a physicist, not a biologist. You'll have to ask a biologist for a more definitive answer. quote:I'm a physicist, not a psychologist. You'll have to ask a psychologist for a more definitive answer. quote:How about both? As a matter of fact, I am at odds with most of the liberals on this board for my views on what we should do with criminals. quote:Good or bad is subjective. I would say that I believe recycling teaches responsibility and a more positive attitude toward our natural resources. quote:Again, who am I to tell people what they should and shouldn't do out of their own free will? Besides, I'm not a sociologist. quote:Please take a few more years of college biology on subjects regarding evolution before you make this "wise" and "logical" assertion. I have a feeling your understanding of scientific theories are that of a layman's layman. quote:I have never called myself an intellectual and I probably am not an intellectual. As a matter of fact, ever since I was in high school I have become less knowledgable and less intellectual everyday. quote:Oh really? Perhaps you'd like to explain to me the gay couples I have met that have been together for decades? Sometimes, you'd see one old man taking care of his wheelchair bound companion. quote:Homosexuality involves two consenting adults while pedophilia involves one consenting adult and one nonconsenting minor. I haven't come to a conclusion about beastiality yet. quote:Apparently, you are only capable of feeling one form of the love emotion. Everything has to be sexual to you, doesn't it? quote:Um... you should look this up again. It's not a crime to think or fantasize. Stalking is an entirely different thing. If you don't believe me, just consult your local lawyer or judge. quote:Please try to stay on topic while you respond to me. Your entire paragraph does nothing to answer to the portion of my post you quoted. quote:Right... if that's the case than it's my mistake. Just so you know, satires only work if there's some kind of point behind the satire. quote:You sure? quote:Nah, I was just being mean to her, knowing chances are she will never see what I wrote. I wouldn't call that a nice figure. But if that's what you like, more power to you. I find people with a little bit more than just skin and bone more attractive.
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