Critique of Ann Coulter's The Church of Liberalism: Godless

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I get the idea, alright. You expouse the very attitude that (in general) Ann talks about.
Based on interviews I've seen with Ann, she is quite sharp and quick on counterpoints to liberals. Her verbal attacking style is obviously appealing to many folks. I haven't read her book, but she makes good points in her debates.
My big objection to her book is that I am godless, but a conservative. I am probably a very rare breed, based on the number of liberal writers at this forum.

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Ann Coulter lies.

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Don't we all..

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Sure.But most of us do not do so irresponsibly and maliciously in order to make truckloads of cash and obtain power and influence.What, are you saying that I can't or shouldn't judge someone according to their actions?I can and should.

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imagine for a second that life isn't a happy little bowl of christ-ee-ohs

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ROTFLMAO!!!Edited by AdminAsgara, : No reason given.

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Do you really find her that objectionable?

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Yes.

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You don't find yourself in agreement over anything she says?

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No.

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Would you say that she makes pretty good arguments even if you don't agree with her view?

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Only a hugely-biased, ignorant, idiotic bigot could find her arguments persuasive.

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I think she's a pretty sharp cookie, personally.

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Oh, he's shrewd, allright.Emphasis on the "shrew".

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Yeah, she's not as good as Michael Moore

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No, she's not, you're right.(Not that Moore is without fault, of course, but he at least makes a valiant effort at backing up his words with data.

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Al Franken is funny, even though I think he's an idiot.

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He's a Harvard graduate and a current Harvard research fellow.He's very, very bright.It takes a lot of smarts to be that funny. A certain nimbleness of mind.A lot of wit to be witty, one might say.Perhaps you might quote some of the things he's said which you believe are idiotic?

Holy crap, I had no idea what a rack of skin and bones she is.It's easy to see that she isn't actually fit, just really too thin, because she has no muscle tone or definition at all.I wonder if she takes drugs to stay that thin or if she has an eating disorder?

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The fact that she has you so riled up allows you to play yourself right into her hands. And yes, there is satire all throughout all of her books. Its called being witty, and liberal pundits do it all the time. I can only assume that it no longer becomes satire if you just so happen to disagree with the message.

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What she says isn't witty. It's just mean and nasty and tasteless and cruel.I mean, she called 9/11 widows "witches and harpies".

OK, here's the thing about Ann coulter and satire, juggs.If she is engaging in satire, she is clearly satirizing the radical right.That's what Stephen Colbert does. Everybody knows that Colbert isn't really a right-wing pundit. In fact, he's quite liberal, yet he portrays a very conservative right wing pundit on The Colbert Report in order to make fun of the policies and major players on the conservative right. He has often stated that one of the people he has modeled his character after is Bill O'Reilly, for example.If Coulter were to actually be engaging in satire to make fun of the left, she would have to portray a far-left pundit, and pretend to espouse a far left position.So, she isn't using satire.

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i did apply the same standard to michael moore. you'll find that i have also argued that he is intellectually dishonest as well, because he also misrepresents sources.

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The thing is, he does this in order to be funny most of the time.The whole point of watching a Moore movie is to enjoy the humor he creates with the inappropriate and misleading edits.

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All that means to me is his parents were well off.

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Being a Harvard research fellow has nothing to do with his parents, because he became a fellow in his forties.Do you even know what a research fellow is?

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Georg Bush is a Yale graduate,

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So, then do you agree with Faith that this means that he must be a Marxist?

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but that doesn't stop people from calling him an idiot.

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Well, he did barely pass. And he did spend 20 years as a drunk. nd he has never run a successful business. And he can't construct a decently complex sentence in English to save his life.

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He's just an idiot as far as politics go.

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Why don't you post some of the political statements Franken has made which show him to be an idiot, then?You certainly don't need to buy one of his books hon, you're on the internet, remember?Here's the link to lots and lots of his words on his website. Go to it, man.

And about Al Franken's parents being rich?His dad, who never finished high school, was a printing salesman and his mom was a real estate agent.I am sure they were OK financially, but I highly doubt they were anything other than middle class. They are certainly not "old money".I think he was probably able to go to Harvard because he got really good grades and his parents worked really hard to be able to send him.

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Its his political views that horrify me.

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Which of Al Franken's political views horrify you?

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Senator Flip-Flop

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Who said the following:"We're going to keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from raiding the Social Security surplus.""If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road."

OK, here's the thing about Ann coulter and satire, juggs.
If she is engaging in satire, she is clearly satirizing the radical right.That's what Stephen Colbert does. Everybody knows that Colbert isn't really a right-wing pundit. In fact, he's quite liberal, yet he portrays a very conservative right wing pundit on The Colbert Report in order to make fun of the policies and major players on the conservative right. He has often stated that one of the people he has modeled his character after is Bill O'Reilly, for example.If Coulter were to actually be engaging in satire to make fun of the left, she would have to portray a far-left pundit, and pretend to espouse a far left position.So, she isn't using satire.

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