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Annafan
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Message 76 of 101 (326585)
06-26-2006 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by FliesOnly
06-26-2006 1:42 PM


Re: Kick the ball towards the net!!!!!!!!!!
fliesonly writes:
Oh come on. Look, these are just guys that kick a ball around for a living, not super-humans. I have admitted that I do not play soccer, nor do I watch very much of the sport either. However, the few segments that I have watched lead me to believe that more shots on goal is certainly a realistic expectation. Seriously, try one less pass and instead, kick the ball towards the goal. Ya never know if ya don't try.
For a forum that deals with a subject like "evolution" all the time, I find it amusing that you think football hasn't reached somekind of 'optimum' yet, lol. :-)
Look, soccer is a game that is being played by hundreds of millions of people in every possible place in the world, and since more than 100 years. Billions of dollars/euros are involved and the big clubs continuously hunt for supertalents in the most remote of places, just to make sure that they don't lose a nugget. On top of that, it is played with incredible passion; if you're good at it, you can become a hero or even a GOD.
Believe me: just about everything had been tried out, and the things that have definitely proven not to work, have been weeded out. Certainly when it comes to matches on a world championship. The weakest teams have been eliminated in preliminary rounds, so you end up with teams that are already levelled to some degree.
If you would watch closely, you would see that the kind of wild shots that you promote, will simply be blocked by defenders 90% of the time. And in the majority of cases, these balls end up with the opponent. There's also a GOALKEEPER in that goal, who catches 95% of anything that gets shot at him from outside the big box and isn't aimed exactly near a goalpost. Consider that not even the very best players will always manage to aim a ball that accurately, not even from a free kick where the ball isn't even moving!
Really, you're just a bit ignorant in this particular subject, I'm afraid

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Annafan
Member (Idle past 4609 days)
Posts: 418
From: Belgium
Joined: 08-08-2005


Message 83 of 101 (326917)
06-27-2006 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by FliesOnly
06-27-2006 4:08 PM


Re: I concede...to a point
fliesonly writes:
I will concede. Unlike hockey, where rebounds and redirections by the goalie are common place and even part of the offensive plan, the same is apparently not true of soccer. However, it still appears to me as if not enough effort is put into attempting to score. Call me ignorant...I really don't care nor take offense...it's just the way I see it.
In soccer, defending is much easier than attacking. It's easy to kick a ball away, and on the other hand extremely difficult to pass a defender with a ball on your foot. If you're not a superstar the likes of Ronaldino, Maradonna or the early Ronaldo, the only way is passing someone purely on speed, or creating room for a player by playing the ball around and looking for a gap to penetrate into. On a high level, that can take quite a bit of time because the defenders are very skilled.
To return to 'shots at the goal': you will notice that they ARE tried quite often once players are inside the big box. But even there, they are often blocked. Defenders will always make a priority of blocking the possible path of the ball. And once you're outside the box, a shot needs to be both powerfull and precise. In modern football, you just don't often get the time to set yourself up for a powerful strike. And anything less is simply useless.
fliesonly writes:
However, what I will not concede is that soccer players are probably the kings (queens) of crying wolf. To me (a person that absolutely will not fake and injury to gain an advantage), the unsportsmanlike conduct of pretending to be seriously injured in hopes of unnecessarily causing your opponent to receive some sort of penalty is cheating...period. I hate it in any sport and soccer players (anecdotally at least), seem to be number one in being a big bunch of pantywaists.
That's another subject, on which I tend to agree. There's so much money involved, and so much at stake in general, that soccer (in all aspects) has become an accurate reflection of general society in that respect. You gotta look hard to spot any ethics, lol... I also regularly get all riled up seeing the things that happen. A couple of years ago we had a player over here who scored a goal with his hand. The referree hadn't spotted it. All the opponents had, of course. The amazing thing was that, after the game, the player ice-cold admitted that he had used his hand. It was very visible on TV images as well. The result? He was NOT sanctioned!!
Nice example for the youngsters...

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