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What are the Degrees of Fundamentalism?

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Message 163 of 229 (332895)
07-18-2006 12:49 PM 		Reply to: Message 161 by Faith
07-18-2006 12:42 PM

Re: scripture ref
Faith writes:
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That very standard rationalization is really nothing but trust in human intellect and distrust in God.
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Is it any wonder that people distrust the god you depict?
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Edited by Ringo, : Fixed quote.
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07-18-2006 12:57 PM 		Reply to: Message 165 by Faith
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Re: scripture ref
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Only an all-powerful holy God is worthy of trust.
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Exactly. And yet, fundies depict a god who kills children because he's mad at the gays next door.
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07-18-2006 2:40 PM 		Reply to: Message 181 by Faith
07-18-2006 2:03 PM

Re: The laws in question
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The context of the laws in the Bible was the legally constituted justice system of Israel.
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You quoted, "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed", as a justification for capital punishment. But in Noah's time there was no Israel, nor any theocracy. There were only individuals to uphold the "law".
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07-18-2006 2:57 PM 		Reply to: Message 183 by Faith
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Re: The laws in question
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There was always community.
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And there is community now, so the same should apply.
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... the restraints of determining evidence and seeking the safety of many counselors.
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Which we do not have today, so capital punishment should not apply.
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(But we have another thread on selective application of the law, don't we?)
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07-21-2006 12:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 220 by Faith
07-21-2006 12:12 PM

Re: God's judgment
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YOU are the one who needs to do the serious self-examination, not I.
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That's probably a good degree-of-fundamentalism indicator right there:
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How vehement is the you-need-to-change-but-I-don't attitude?
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