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sidelined
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Message 158 of 229 (332886)
07-18-2006 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Faith
07-18-2006 12:24 PM


Re: scripture ref
Faith
It's the distrust of God and trust in your own fallible intellect that makes it not make sense to you.
I cannot speak for ramoss but for myself one of the simpler reasons for not bothering with the bible is that the matter is not one of distrust in a God but in men with agendas of their own who indeed wrote the bible.

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sidelined
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Message 192 of 229 (333253)
07-19-2006 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 161 by Faith
07-18-2006 12:42 PM


Re: scripture ref
Faith
Yet the men who write the bible, because you agree with their point of view, are exempt from the fallibility of intellect you claim all men have.Refering back to a point you made here,
There's no conflict to one who submits to the Bible as written with trust in the God who wrote it.
there is, of course, no conflict because you accept without question because it resonates with your feelings and your beliefs. What you accept outright by submission by definition requires that you not question its standards nor dispute its findings. Here we have an example of you failing to realize that you consider yourself exempt from the fallibility of error also, for no other reason than you consider the bible and God to be correct.
This is a poor sort of a standard for belief in my eyes.
Edited by sidelined, : No reason given.

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sidelined
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Message 206 of 229 (333675)
07-20-2006 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by Faith
07-19-2006 1:58 PM


Re: scripture ref
Faith
They wrote under God's inspiration and He is the one who made sure they wrote the truth. They wrote only when "moved by the Holy Spirit."
So how do you know this to be the case? How do you determine what they were writing about actually occured and was inspired by God?
I reiterate, you believe this to be the case ,and that is your right. However, this does not make the writings to be true nor does it mean that other people are incorrect in their rejection or ignorance of the bible.

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sidelined
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Message 208 of 229 (333700)
07-20-2006 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by riVeRraT
07-20-2006 8:16 AM


Re: God's judgment
riVeRrat
He predicted it before it happened, and I personally read it before it happened.
Excellent! What was the name of the periodical you read it in and the date of the publication?

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sidelined
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Message 214 of 229 (333942)
07-21-2006 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 213 by riVeRraT
07-21-2006 9:44 AM


Re: God's judgment
riVeRrat
At one time in life, I would have greed with you with arms raised in the air, until I started recieving my own visions about events and things. I am no conman jar. I don't want $19.95 for a green miracle rag, or do the guys I am talking about.
Good for you. Unlike John Paul Jackson {Page not found - STREAMS MINISTRIES INTERNATIONAL} you refuse to ask people for money but do it out of the goodness of your heart. However, Iwould ask that the next event you claim to have insight on be something that you post to us here that we might actually have something pre event to verify that what you are saying is correct.
He was preaching about orbs in digital pictures and claiming they were spirits from God. I am into photography as a hobby, and have researched them on my own, and have made the conclusion they weren't.
I confronted him with the information. He was decieved by a photographer from a major newspaper, and was told they were spirits from God. After I gave him the information, he stopped preaching that message. He wants to keep it as real as possible.
Now, the man is incapable of discerning that the photograph is not "spirits from God", and yet ,he teaches people people in the following
# Leadership Training CourseNew Course
# The Art Of Hearing God- Course 101
# Advanced Prophetic Ministry - Course 102
# Reaching Your Destiny in God- Course 104
# Understanding Dreams And Visions- Course 201
# Advanced Workshop In Dream Interpretation- Course 202
Page not found - STREAMS MINISTRIES INTERNATIONAL
If the man needs you to correct him on issues that he claims to be expert in then how does he make the error he did? I asked you earlier to please provide information on the periodical you read his prophecy for Katrina in and I would request this again in case you missed my post.
I will go out on a limb here and prophesy that either you cannot {for any number of reasons} or the periodical he did the claiming in is post Katrina and therefore invalid.

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sidelined
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Message 216 of 229 (333953)
07-21-2006 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by NosyNed
07-21-2006 11:27 AM


Re: Third option on prophecy
NosyNed
I think RR said the prophecy wasn't about the levees breaking but about a Hurricane that was bigger than any seen.
I will not even hold it against him that he got it wrong. What seems a silly thing to prophecy about is a hurricane in the southeatern United States at all. Now if he could predict a huuricane in, say, Juno Alaska in mid winter then we would have something.

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