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Author Topic:   What is the biggest bible contradiction?
Chiroptera
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Message 183 of 311 (369054)
12-11-2006 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by rrammcitktturjsp012006
12-11-2006 2:05 PM


Re: Hmm this may not be what you are looking for
Sorry, Anne. The link was to the Wikipedia article on the Sabellian heresy: Sabellianism - Wikipedia.
Basically, the heresy is that the three persons of the trinity, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, are simply the same God acting in his different capacities.

Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793. But regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty forever. -- Albert Camus

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Chiroptera
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Message 184 of 311 (369057)
12-11-2006 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 179 by vitalprikalist
12-11-2006 2:35 PM


Re: THE TRUTH
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There are no, I repeat no contradictions in the Bible.
Sure there are. We've listed a bunch on this very thread. Why don't you try to explain a few of the ones that have been listed?

Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793. But regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty forever. -- Albert Camus

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Chiroptera
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Message 187 of 311 (369140)
12-11-2006 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by rrammcitktturjsp012006
12-11-2006 6:24 PM


Re: (IL)logic proves a dodecatinity.
If you are near a university bookstore, find out what the beginning level logic course is (usually offered by the philosophy department), and then find the text on the shelves.
Other than that, go to a really good bookstore, go to the logic section (might be near mathematics, or might be in the philosophy section), and read the prefaces of books that have titles like Logic or Introduction to Logic to see if any are intended as a beginning level textbook.
A big used book store in a college town that sells used textbooks is another good bet.
I think intro level textbooks will be pretty much interchangeable.

Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793. But regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty forever. -- Albert Camus

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Chiroptera
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Message 209 of 311 (369274)
12-12-2006 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by Equinox
12-12-2006 10:05 AM


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I've always wanted to get a bunch of JW's together to make little magic cloth bags with me at a howard johnson's hotel, while eating those chocolate hostess snacks. Then I'd be making MoJo, eating HoHos at the HoJo with the JoHoHos!
Okay, now that's bad.

Kings were put to death long before 21 January 1793. But regicides of earlier times and their followers were interested in attacking the person, not the principle, of the king. They wanted another king, and that was all. It never occurred to them that the throne could remain empty forever. -- Albert Camus

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Chiroptera
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Message 216 of 311 (369302)
12-12-2006 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by Rob
12-12-2006 1:14 AM


quote:
So... You're saying that in order to be human... (In other words to qualify)... one must sin???
It isn't enough that we must endure the temptation?
No. According to traditional (now fundamentalist) Christian doctrine, sin is an inescapable part of the human condidition. Humans cannot avoid sinning. All have come short of the glory of God, and all that. If it were possible for a human to avoid sinning, then I would have expected that among the billions of humans in the last 6000 years there would have been a few who haven't sinned.
Therefore, no sin = not fully human.

Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. -- Otto von Bismarck

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Chiroptera
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Message 223 of 311 (369323)
12-12-2006 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by Equinox
12-12-2006 2:45 PM


Re: History, not theology, best explains the origin of the trinity idea
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The truth of the matter is, by denying the Trinity doctrine, Mormon's have become polytheistic
I can imagine a 2nd century Jew saying:
"The truth of the matter is, by denying the oneness of Yahweh, these, what are they called? "Christians" have become polytheistic!
Which, by the way, is a charge made by the Muslims against Christianity.

Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. -- Otto von Bismarck

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Chiroptera
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Message 227 of 311 (369330)
12-12-2006 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by anastasia
12-12-2006 3:00 PM


Hi, anastasia.
I'm just repeating traditional Christian doctrine (at least traditional Protestant doctrine). Christ's sacrifice was necessary for everyone's salvation, no exceptions. Everyone is a sinner, no exceptions.
At least that is the conservative Baptist doctrine.

Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. -- Otto von Bismarck

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Chiroptera
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Message 299 of 311 (370418)
12-17-2006 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 297 by Rob
12-17-2006 3:51 PM


quote:
Some people think that there must be a natural explanation to everything.
Some people might. And there are other people who think that a natural explanation is a pretty good bet unless and until they have good reason to believe otherwise.

Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. -- Otto von Bismarck

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