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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
A tiny percentage of the questions were a bit unfair. For example, "Where is the Berlin Wall?", I would have paused, too, thinking, "Okay, he must be asking what road the Berlin Wall was on, do I know that? Let's see, there was Brandenberg Gate, was it on Brandenberg Street? No, that can't be right, I think the wall turned corners, so it couldn't be said to be on any particular street. Is he asking if it divided East Berlin from West Berlin? I guess I'm not sure what he's asking."
Also, "Where is KFC from," I would have paused there, too, knowing that although KFC stands for Kentucky Fried Chicken, that is quite possibly just a marketing name, and the company itself could be from anywhere. But the vast majority of the questions were perfectly fair, and they highlight a very real problem here in the states - we think it perfectly okay to graduate ignoramuses from high school. I especially liked the mislabeled map. In a couple hours my daughter walks down the aisle to accept her high school diploma, and I'm gratified that she knows that South Korea is not on the continent of Australia. --Percy
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Vacate Member (Idle past 4629 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Keys writes: What about those talking about the FSM??? You aren't ragging on them. Why? I brought up the FSM as a comparative to creation science. I would still like to know if you support the building of FSM museums. A more direct question is - Should people be overjoyed when museums are built on fantasy, mythology, or lies? What about if such museums are built yet portray these ideas as facts? I am not talking about the FSM. I am asking you if you are overjoyed at fantasy museums possibly being created and marketed to children as truth. --------I got through this thread after I replied to your post #46. I see now that you do not wish to present your evidence, nor address any of the issues presented in the science threads. Are you claiming that the science threads are based on evidence? If so, what parts of the evidence? All of it, or just the narrow, piddly little cultish bits of fleshly stuff they chose there?? What you could do - present the evidence that you feel you have that contradicts the evidence that science has. Being that the topic would be yours people would have to abide by the forum rules and stay within that line of thought.
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Admin Director Posts: 13042 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Judging by the discussion in this thread, it really belongs in the [forum=-11] forum, so I'm moving it there. Before doing that, I'd like to make a few points.
First, a discussion thread is not a chat room. The discussion board format permits deliberation, study, thought and reflection. When you find yourself exchanging very short messages with the same person or persons every couple minutes, please post a message suggesting that everyone go to the EvC Forum Chat Room. Second, threads have topics, not to limit discussion, but to keep discussion focused. The topic of this thread, judging from the discussion so far, concerns science museums and their responsibility for accurate representation. Third, I am the 3rd moderator to post here in the past 24 hours. Obviously what moderators have observed in this thread is causing concern, so let me explicitly caution participants to focus on their discussion on the topic, and not on the people they're discussing with.
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Admin Director Posts: 13042 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Thread moved here from the Coffee House forum.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Presumably you give equal recommendations for UFO museums?
http://www.roswellufomuseum.com/ the bigfoot museum?http://www.bigfootmuseum.com/ Museums for lake monsters?http://www.worldhop.com/Journals/J11/PAGES/Magic.html http://sunnyokanagan.com/ogopogo/ and anything else that fits the faith category of knowledge... with no critical review for any actual facts. Enjoy. compare Fiocruz Genome and fight Muscular Dystrophy with Team EvC! (click) we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So you believe, like Jesus, in the flood, and the first man, Adam? No, of course not. There has NEVER been a world-wide flood and certainly not in the literal Adam.
Fine, present the evidence that there is nothing that is more than animal and show it is something not also possessed by all the other animals and we can discuss it. Meanwhile, admit you know not about what it is you speak. I'm sorry but YOU were the person asserting that there was something more.
Well, referring to the groups of believers as cons, and cults, and charlatans with a 'pimp daddy of a god' comes to mind! Should I be feeling the love in there somehow? Sorry if the truth hurts. But it is only the members that have a picayune bling-bling pimp-daddy of a god. The preachers and teachers and pastors and ministers and padres and priests and other charlatans who are getting rich off the membership of the Christian Cult of Ignorance, who take advantage of them through things like the different Creation Museums and conathons like the 700 Club have no god but themselves and your money. I hope you do feel the love, because you have been lied to by your religious leaders and now you have a chance not just to see that they are lying to you, but that it is possible to learn, and to grow as a Christian. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Admin Director Posts: 13042 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Participants are reminded to keep discussion focused on the topic, which is science museums and their responsibility for accurate representation.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3976 Joined: |
That guideline was not specifically aimed at Key's. The ultimate problem goes back to whomever first introduced the FSM into the topic.
Also, in regards to Molbiogirl's message 73, where she quotes and comments on the content of message 1.
Here is your OP in its entirety:
First we had the one in the US. Now, another one in Canada. I would not be surprised if many in different states and countries opened up over the next decade or so. I think this is a good thing. A great thing. Long overdue. Not because all the science is perfect, any more than it might be for the evolution proponents, but, because children deserve faith.I plan to recommend both museums, and any more than spring up. You will note that nowhere is "creation" mentioned. "Creationism" is in the topic title:
Creationism museum opens in Alberta That leaves the topic pretty broad, but "creationism" and "museum" are pretty key words. Creationism is on topic, IF it connects up with the creationism museum concept. Basicly, if it wouldn't be found in the museum, then it's off-topic. Adminnemooseus New Members should start HERE to get an understanding of what makes great posts. Comments on moderation procedures (or wish to respond to admin messages)? - Go to:
General discussion of moderation procedures Thread Reopen Requests Considerations of topic promotions from the "Proposed New Topics" forum Other useful links:
Forum Guidelines, [thread=-19,-112], [thread=-17,-45], [thread=-19,-337], [thread=-14,-1073] Admin writes:
It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon. There used to be a comedian who presented his ideas for a better world, and one of them was to arm everyone on the highway with little rubber dart guns. Every time you see a driver doing something stupid, you fire a little dart at his car. When a state trooper sees someone driving down the highway with a bunch of darts all over his car he pulls him over for being an idiot. Please make it easy to tell you apart from the idiots. Source
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I prefer to have more flexibility to look at all evidences, including things this forum does not consider science. . I'm now not even sure who is defending what side of the argument. A scientific museum deals with matters of science. Maybe you should bring your "things that this forum does not consider science" to a new "Proposed New Topics" topic. Again, I'm not focusing this on just Keys. Adminnemooseus Edited by Minnemooseus, : Duh. Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for ” but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote: Well, don't get too cocky, after all, how many facts does man have the power to review, or even access to??
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote: No worries, I am aware of the limitations of this part of the forum, and plan to act accordingly. Edited by keys, : No reason given.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote: OK, getting back on topic, I noticed this exhibit from the creation museum. (I will remind people that I wanted this in the coffee house, someone bumped it here, don't blame me)
http://studentweb.eku.edu/zachary_lynn/museum/index.htmlThis is some of the biblical related content to what is in the museum. Edited by keys, : No reason given. Edited by keys, : No reason given. Edited by keys, : No reason given.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2671 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
This is some of the biblical related content to what is in the museum. Yes? And?
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2331 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: |
The Coffee House is for topics not related to creation vs evolution.
The science fora are for debates on science issues. AdminAsgara Queen of the Universe Comments on moderation procedures (or wish to respond to admin messages)? - Go to:
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2671 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
I believe the topic has been moved to "Is It Science?" from the "Coffee House" earlier in the thread.
Edited by molbiogirl, : No reason given.
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