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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
no. winamp. it has an auto-generate feature.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
What are you guys, a thousand years old?
How did they even make music before computers? Delerium and Juno Reactor are on heavy rotation on my iPod. (I love the vocals of Kristy Thirsk.)
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
How did they even make music before computers? The same way that real musicians make music today, Poindexter, with musical instruments. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
ew. computers.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
The same way that real musicians make music today, Poindexter, with musical instruments. Blech. How imprecise and dissonant. The whole history of musical invention has been about the precise reproduction of specific waveforms. Thank goodness for the invention of computers which finally made that possible. (Although I've always found the electromechanical tone wheels of the Hammond organ kind of quaint.)
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Jon Inactive Member |
Can I suggest Nirvana - Territorial Pissings; then ease your friend into some of the lighter Nirvana, such as 'Smells Like Teen Spirit', which has lower points in between the heavier parts. Drop him, next, some 'Lithium', which has longer low points, and less crucial heavy parts. Next, move to 'In Bloom', which runs at a medium, yet steady pace... not too light, not too heavy. And when you got him to the point he can no longer resist hearing more, hit him up with 'The Man who Sold the World'.
That's the Cobain method; conversely, play him some Johnny Cash and he'll nd himself falling into a never-ending ring of re”he'll be hooked! How you perform the conversion, is I guess, up to you Also, I'm not sure about where you live, but here we have a campus radio station that plays some pretty weird-ass stuff by local bands (I think). Maybe he would like some of that? It's usually not heavy-metal; in fact, it's rarely even music. Jon In considering the Origin of Species, it is quite conceivable that a naturalist... might come to the conclusion that each species had not been independently created, but had descended, like varieties, from other species. - Charles Darwin On the Origin of Species _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ En el mundo hay multitud de idiomas, y cada uno tiene su propio significado. - I Corintios 14:10_ _ _ _ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ A devout people with its back to the wall can be pushed deeper and deeper into hardening religious nativism, in the end even preferring national suicide to religious compromise. - Colin Wells Sailing from Byzantium
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
crashfrog writes: The whole history of musical invention has been about the precise reproduction of specific waveforms. "Precise reproduction" is certainly not what music or any other art is about. That's why all recorded music is bland compared to live music. Digital recording just lowers the common denominator even further. “Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels ------------- Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
That's why all recorded music is bland compared to live music. Digital recording just lowers the common denominator even further. I've seen live concerts and I've heard recorded music (obviously.) You're 100% wrong. The acoustics and audio fidelity will always be better in the digital recording than in the live performance. Live, there's interference from other people, there's the trade-off between creating an acoustic space and creating a performance space. Maybe a jet flies overhead or something. It's impossible to get the same fidelity by being there in one seat out of 2000 or whatever as compared to a digital recording of even the exact same event as taken from the recording position most advantageous for clarity. If you want the experience of seeing a show, then you should go to the show. If you want to use your ears to hear music, you should be going from digital recordings. And let's not hear any nonsense about vinyl. Sure, digital sampling of waveforms tends to distort high-frequencies. But the frequencies that would be most distorted by digital sampling are well beyond the range of human hearing. And the inertia of a record-player's needle has exactly the same effect on high-frequency playback, because the needle skips over high-frequency valleys like a car shooting over the ruts in a washboard road at 70 mph. Digital recording is superior.
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Jon Inactive Member |
The whole history of musical invention has been about the precise reproduction of specific waveforms. Thank goodness for the invention of computers which finally made that possible. This is why folks like N'sync make millions selling their washed-up rubbish to the brainwashed and mindless drizzle we'd normally call the populace. Most of the current generation is supercial to a previously unprecedented degree. I guess we should not be surprised, considering that the music they are spoon fed is nothing more than fake, mass-produced, overly marketed crap. So are the clothes they wear, the food they eat, and even the language they speak. Furthermore, music is about the production of 'wave-forms', not their reproduction. Jon
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
This is why folks like N'sync make millions selling their washed-up rubbish to the brainwashed and mindless drizzle we'd normally call the populace. Remind me again who's being ignorant when they assert that N'Sync (for christ's sake) is the beginning and end of electronic music.
Most of the current generation is supercial to a previously unprecedented degree. "Kids these days, with their damn devil music and their clothes! Shut off that noise and get off my lawn!"
Furthermore, music is about the production of 'wave-forms', not their reproduction. Thank goodness for the invention of computers which allow the creation of infinite waveforms, not just what you can get from vibrating strings or columns of air.
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Jon Inactive Member |
We've said our points. Let's move on. No need for every thread to be hijacked into the usual 'how will crash squirm his way out of this crushing blow' circus.
We disagree... oh well. Jon
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Let's move on. No need for every thread to be hijacked into the usual 'how will crash squirm his way out of this crushing blow' circus. That one made me laugh, I'll give you that. Seriously, though. Nobody else is into Delerium? My friends and I used to do this thing in college we called "living stereo"; we'd use a portable CD player combined with a set of battery-powered wireless speakers shared amongst us to play techno as we walked around. Since nobody could see the speakers, and since it was in stereo, it was all but impossible for anybody to locate the source of the sound. We never went into libraries or whatever, it was just fun to mess with people's heads in the cafeteria.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
crashfrog writes: The acoustics and audio fidelity will always be better in the digital recording than in the live performance. Fidelity has nothing to do with the quality of the music.
Live, there's interference from other people, there's the trade-off between creating an acoustic space and creating a performance space. Exactly. It's the performance that makes it human, as opposed to mechanical. If you hadn't noticed, the thread is about passion for music. “Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place” -- Joseph Goebbels ------------- Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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Jon Inactive Member |
Seriously, though. Nobody else is into Delerium? My friends and I used to do this thing in college we called "living stereo"; we'd use a portable CD player combined with a set of battery-powered wireless speakers shared amongst us to play techno as we walked around. Since nobody could see the speakers, and since it was in stereo, it was all but impossible for anybody to locate the source of the sound. I can honestly say that you are the rst person I've ever 'met' who considered speaker reverb to be an art form. But, to each his own, I guess...
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Spektical Member (Idle past 6008 days) Posts: 119 Joined: |
First of all yea I think you are crazy Brenna
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