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StElsewhere
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Message 205 of 218 (434520)
11-16-2007 6:21 AM
Reply to: Message 189 by jar
11-14-2007 5:49 PM


Re: Botrh sides of bigotry
Get a load of you...here you are ...Mr. Progressive...defending the rights of those who participate in the deviant sex acts he "approves" of...and in the same breath...denies a fellow degenerate... "Sheep-man" ... his equal rights...who are you? Who died and put you in charge of putting the stamp of approval on which degenerate act are acceptable or not?

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StElsewhere
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Message 206 of 218 (434521)
11-16-2007 6:24 AM
Reply to: Message 190 by EighteenDelta
11-14-2007 6:33 PM


Re: Botrh sides of bigotry
Animal Abuse?...who has proved that there is abuse?..."Dolly-Sheep" shows every sign of complete contentment...she's been examined by vets and they can she no signs of harm...in face she is in good shape and very healthy...well kept...

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StElsewhere
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Message 207 of 218 (434522)
11-16-2007 6:36 AM
Reply to: Message 191 by Fosdick
11-14-2007 7:39 PM


Re: Both sides of bigotry
You're right. Heterosexuality, homosexuality, bestiality, bigamy, incest, fucking your stamp collection”nothing I can think of should be banned from marriage. But it's a moot point. Any two hermit crabs of either sex could get married on Animal Planet, if the producers decided to hold ceremonies. "Marriage" is an ambiguous term”you can have a marriage between two 2x4s. It's the "civil union" part that matters. If gays want to join in civil unions, let them. If they want to call themselves "married," let them. Let every one and every thing get married in whatever kind of place they choose. But let's not give civil-union rights to amorous pets and farm animals, or to other sexual persuasions that have no socially redeeming value.
[Oh!! really...an what is socially redeeming about homosexuality?]
The government should get out of the marriage business altogether. Just stick with civil-unions. I think the idea of civil-unions for gays has socially redeeming value. And I think that when gays demand that their civil unions be called "marriages" is clear evidence that they are more interested in coming out of the closet than in joining the ranks of reasonable people.
[You know when supposed adults lack that ability to converse without regurgitating their street filth in a public forum...is a clear indication of an even greater lack of basic civilities ... ergo one is given even clearer insight as to the familiar origins from whence they've come...Tragic]

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StElsewhere
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Message 211 of 218 (434528)
11-16-2007 7:11 AM
Reply to: Message 192 by Taz
11-14-2007 9:15 PM


Re: Both sides of bigotry
You're right. Heterosexuality, homosexuality, bestiality, bigamy, incest, fucking your stamp collection”nothing I can think of should be banned from marriage.
What part of "two consenting adults" don't you understand?
[You START the slippery slope with your demand for the right to marry....because then argument become one of : ok well we give the right to marry...based on a deviant sex act...what do we do with the next deviant sex group which stands in line for the same rights?...Point ...Set...Match!!]
Oh, why, almighty god, must people like hoot always use the slippery slope argument everytime we bring this issue up?
[Because you have open up the slides gates...and you know what always slips downhill]
The government should get out of the marriage business altogether. Just stick with civil-unions. I think the idea of civil-unions for gays has socially redeeming value.
[Again...name one thing about homosexuality that has been proven to have 1 socially redeemable value]
And I think that when gays demand that their civil unions be called "marriages" is clear evidence that they are more interested in coming out of the closet than in joining the ranks of reasonable people.
[ Correct they want to cloak a deviant sex act in respectability by calling it marriage...I agree]
And as I have explained this many times before, simply getting the legal rights is only part of the human rights issue at hand.
[Sheep-man want his rights too]
I'm an atheist. So is my wife.
[Small wonder]
Neither of us really cared about the official ceremony thing when we got married. One might ask why didn't we just move in together and automatically be married after 5 or so years of living together by the common marriage law? The answer is simple. I wanted to proclaim my love for this woman, and she wanted to proclaim her love for me. Being socially recognized is a very important factor in this issue.
[Soooo...you just proved that even an atheist can manage to do the right thing for the right reason...BRAVO!...that is akin to a blind sow finding an ear of corn...eventually anything is possible]
What you are essentially proposing is gay people ought to be having all the rights and benefits as long as they do it in the back alley and out of society's view.
[Again ...name one socially redeemable value of anything gay!...that is good for society]
Trust me, I would be pissed too if I was told that I was told to keep my relationship with my wife a quiet thing. I would be pissed even more if society refuses to recognize my relationship with my wife.
[You are a man and your wife a woman...you have all the rights in the world...there is no issue there... it is inbalanced to make an analogy in support of gay marriage by using yourself.]
So, I ask you again, what's wrong gay people getting married socially and legally?
[What is right with it?]
Why must they have to accept the bastardized version of marriage (aka civil union) and keep their ceremonies in the back alley while us straights can boast about our sex lives every chance we get?
[They can celebrate whatever ...whenever...about whatsoever...but if you cloak one deviant sex act in respectability...you must ...by those same rights open the door to all the rest...and if you don't then the homosexual lobby will be called the bigots and justifiably so... if you don't see that ...it is because you don't want to]

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StElsewhere
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Message 212 of 218 (434529)
11-16-2007 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by ringo
11-15-2007 12:00 AM


Re: Both sides of bigotry
Boy...you quote a Nazi...WOW... so what is your beef with God? What perceived injustice do you believe was wrought by the hand of God...that turned you against Him!

St.Elsewhere

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StElsewhere
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Message 213 of 218 (434531)
11-16-2007 7:23 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by EighteenDelta
11-14-2007 3:42 PM


Re: It;s oxymoronic to use High&Nobel and Homosexual in the same breath
You know you should copy and paste hat thought you are replying...it will be easier to keep the conversation going

St.Elsewhere

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StElsewhere
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Message 214 of 218 (434532)
11-16-2007 7:25 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by EighteenDelta
11-14-2007 3:46 PM


Re: It;s oxymoronic to use High&Nobel and Homosexual in the same breath
The "straw man" in your view doesn't count as a person with rights?

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StElsewhere
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Posts: 24
From: NE, USA
Joined: 11-13-2007


Message 215 of 218 (434533)
11-16-2007 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 176 by jar
11-14-2007 3:49 PM


Re: It;s oxymoronic to use High&Nobel and Homosexual in the same breath
...and you say Jesus would accept same-sex marriages?...Base on what?...and it has got to be a source other than from your hat rack!

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StElsewhere
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Posts: 24
From: NE, USA
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Message 216 of 218 (434534)
11-16-2007 7:36 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by EighteenDelta
11-14-2007 3:50 PM


Re: Botrh sides of bigotry
My position has absolutely NOTHING to do with threats...perceived or real... if one deviant sex act is cloaked in the respectability ...the progenitors of all of the other...deviant sex... have every right to ask for the same thing...and if the gays deny the "Sheep-men" of tis world their right to marry...won't the gays be the haters and bigots?

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