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Author Topic:   Global Futurism. A discussion of impending issues
tesla
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Message 68 of 241 (444147)
12-28-2007 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by tesla
12-28-2007 1:05 PM


Re: The real threat to humanity are End Time Believers
Biodiesel production - Wikipedia
a biodeisel electric engine in california has been quoted as produceing 100 miles to the gallon. this would mean alot less carbon emmision.
but molbio is right in the production process.
perhapts the solution is an alternative production method, or refineing electric moters.
somewhere out here there has to be a way to combat global warming.

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Message 69 of 241 (444149)
12-28-2007 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by sidelined
12-28-2007 1:14 PM


Re: The real threat to humanity are End Time Believers
even if the human population was stagnant, in that we retained the current population, there is enough now that the danger must be curbed by our usage.
anyone know any other viable alternative energy ideas? the nations would kill itself with technollogy before nations would part with it. we need new technollogy, and we need to implement it.

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Message 71 of 241 (444161)
12-28-2007 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by molbiogirl
12-28-2007 1:36 PM


Re: The real threat to humanity are End Time Believers
electricity comes form fossil fuels:
surprised you would say that, because although in the US the majority of electricity is from fossil fuels, asia is mostly nuclear (all nuclear?)
dams, wind, and sun are alternatives.
the global warming issue is complicated, but if everyone only points out negatives and no steps are made for improvment then we lose.
we need to attak global warming and fossil fuel usage on multiple sides, but we need the alternatives before we can rally to logical production and implementation
we need : awarness of alternatives scientifically documented and viable. and then find out what is keeping then from becomeing used (like special intrest gruops like big oil)
do you assert no viable alternative energy methods exist?
Edited by tesla, : wrong word.

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tesla
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Message 74 of 241 (444179)
12-28-2007 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by molbiogirl
12-28-2007 2:11 PM


Re: The real threat to humanity are End Time Believers
None of which are sufficient.
None of which are economically viable.
(concernin electricity alternatives)
YET. if humanity doesnt try we'll cut our own throats.
the automobile wasnt viable initially either. now, who could make it to work 60 miles away on a horse and not loose their job?
their is a solution somewhere.
do you propose do nothing? not try to assist in the discovery or awarness?
Page not found - Daily Reckoning Australia
at least there trying.

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Message 76 of 241 (444189)
12-28-2007 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by jar
12-28-2007 2:48 PM


Re: The problems with Biofuels
if it wasnt for global warming biodeisel would be perfect.
farmers grow by profitability: supply versus demand. biodeiesel is based on a renewable energy scource as opposed to non renewable.
we could grow the base products in america, and american energy dollars would go to america, and not billions to oversea countries.
its not a very good solution over all tho. (as bio pointed out) there still has to be something better.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 78 of 241 (444192)
12-28-2007 3:09 PM
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12-28-2007 3:07 PM


Re: The problems with Biofuels
well said sidelined.
but how difficult is it for biodeisel to be used as jet fuel?
if jet fuel and deisel is as similiar as ive read, the solution of flight is also in bio fuels.
Edited by tesla, : can i just turn my signature on permanant?

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 80 of 241 (444198)
12-28-2007 3:21 PM
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12-28-2007 3:13 PM


Re: The problems with Biofuels
i agree.
there needs to be more awarness before funding can be aknoledged as not a waste.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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Message 86 of 241 (444272)
12-28-2007 7:55 PM
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12-28-2007 7:50 PM


Re: The real issue is identifying threats and acting on them.
lol it would be a smart politcal card.
what would happen if a fairly large nuclear bomb was released in the stratosphere?

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Message 104 of 241 (444353)
12-29-2007 12:19 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by jar
12-28-2007 9:46 PM


Re: National Day of Prayer
your right jar.
the sky is going to turn black, the sun will not shed its light, everyone not a christain will go to hell and when its over you can turn to everyone and say : see? i told you it was those damn christians.
lol i still dont buy that religeon is the greatest threat faceing the planet. (extremist aside)

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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Message 108 of 241 (444405)
12-29-2007 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by jar
12-29-2007 9:41 AM


Re: National Day of Prayer
end time prophecy is a beleif of all christians. so if you are a christian, you also beleive in the end time prophecy.
this is a discussion of global futurism "impending issues"
as a christian, the fact in the beleif that the return of God and the inevital destruction of the current age does not mean as a christian, you should not attempt to correct behaviors that are imminent world wide destruction by mans actions.
we see the storm with global warming.
we recognize the threat of nuclear war.
we see the potential of a mass hitting the planet from space.
we have no plans to correct the issues.
we need new science for global warming.
we need politics to dismantel the threat of nuclear war.
we need world wide cooperation for recovery plans for natural destructions.
so..what ARE all the issues? end time beleivers is not a threat.
can anyone make a list of issues? because i dont know them all.

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tesla
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Message 110 of 241 (444407)
12-29-2007 10:10 AM
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12-29-2007 10:06 AM


Re: National Day of Prayer
oh, so your not a very good christian:
re-read mathew 24 4-46

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tesla
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Message 112 of 241 (444409)
12-29-2007 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by jar
12-29-2007 10:14 AM


Re: National Day of Prayer
you have failed to prove that end time beleivers are a threat.
book of enoch, isaiah, mathew, revelations : end time beleivers.
so for thousands of years we have had end time beleivers. world isnt over.
many times , even recent times, people have walked the streets saying the its the end of the world. it wasnt.
beleif of an end mandated by God does not constitute a threat. this topic cant hope to discuss "impending" issues, as long as you keep trying to reconstitute a thousands year old beleif is an "impending" issue.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 114 of 241 (444412)
12-29-2007 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by jar
12-29-2007 10:37 AM


Re: Topic
i fail to see how that proves end time beleivers a threat.
i see what you mean about preperation and small scale issues, however,
prepping for a play in high school is nothing near makeing a 2 hour movie.
we need concrete evidence of issues, awarness of the issues, and immediate actions to be taken. it takes time to implement fixes for somehting so large scale. if too much debateing and not enough action on concrete evidence, the debate will be "what do we do now." as oppossed to "how can we prevent this?"

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tesla
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Message 117 of 241 (444516)
12-29-2007 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by molbiogirl
12-29-2007 6:30 PM


Re: End Time Belief and Political Power
however the presidents power is limited by congress, and the actions taken against Iraq had to be proven to congress to be a threat before action was taken. which was the wmd debate.
even if the president claimed to be God himself, i don't see any real threat to mankind as a whole by the basis of end time belief.
can it cause problems? yes. end the world? no.
the only way this could potentially happen is if all of congress agreed with a president who claimed to be God, and the rest of the political structure necessary for a world annihilation act remain together.
i believe that religion is a major factor in the decisions of politics. religious people are voters.
i don't believe that believing in the end of the world is going to trump current world problems like global warming and the dangerous consequences that the climate change could reveal.
you cant prove it. at best you can assert that the potential of congress and the president to all loose their minds and commit global suicide is a possibility. however, a very remote one.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 119 of 241 (444548)
12-29-2007 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by molbiogirl
12-29-2007 8:17 PM


Re: End Time Belief and Political Power
you cannot suggest that congress would allow a president to unload nuclear warfare at his choosing.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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