Huckabee

Aside from how Iowa essentially does not matter, what do you guys think of him?

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If he gets the Republican nomination, then he should prove to be their death knoll. And deservedly so.

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Is that a bad thing? If Huck wins the nomination, it's a sign that the GOP no longer cares about anything other then religious conservatism.Maybe then the libertarian/fiscal conservatives will be fed up enough to leave the party?Personally, I don't think Huck will win the primary though. Even though the grip of the religious evangelicals is tight, the financial clout of many business oriented Republicans will prevent Mr. Big Spending + Taxes from grabbing the nomination.But we are 'toast' as we know it if a big spending liberal with a extremely socially conservative agenda wins the General. Four years of someone worse then Dubya?Yikes. That would be a good poll, would you rather have dubya or huck or a bullet to the brain?

I agree. Hence why I'm waiting for what New Hampshire does as it has a far larger number of moderate independents who can come and go in the caucuses. Still, I'd rather have Ohio go first as it's far more representative of the country then either Iowa or New Hampshire.

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How could anyone spend more, increase the size of government more, or have less fiscal responsibility, than a modern Reagan-Bush Republican? They squander more money than a crack whore.

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How could anyone be worse than Bush? I didn't know Buchanan or Pierce were running.

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Do you really want to find out? Remember, just as there is someone who is always better then you, there is always someone who is worse.

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It appears from his website that he's pretty much of a conservative, i.e. to conserve the standards for the nation that the founders installed, employed and envisioned for the future. These standards are the ones which have made the nation the world's most blessed, where freedom has rang for the first two centuries.

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Sure they do Buzz. Thanks for admitting that his supporters don't care about libertarianism or fiscal conservatism.Huck is a big spending liberal with socially conservative ideas. In essence another Neo-Con. Taking the worst aspects of liberalism and melding them with the worst aspects of Conservatism.

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ABE: The really dangerous one, the ultra-liberal Obama who's principle spiritual mentor is a pro black Muslim Louis Farrakan lubber and who advocates a whole lot of what our founders

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Your political ideas are just as insane as your science beliefs.

Precisely. I expect Dear Ol' Huck to get slaughtered in secular New Hampshire.As a Libertarian Fiscal Conservative, there isn't much I like about Huck.

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Why would it be their death knell?

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Possibly because the party would split into "Yay Jesus" and everyone else who's sick and tired of evangelicals running the party?

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Why?

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Because the last thing we need is another Neo-Con to spend us into bankruptcy, ignore science and implement religious programs that have no empirical basis?

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but i think you'll find most of the objections from people here are that he's too christian

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But shouldn't a history of a politician in how they use their religion matter more? For instance Ron Paul who's strongly religious has I dare say never voted yes on a bill based on religious morality. In fact Dr. No has voted well, no on morality based bills. Wouldn't voters who are afraid of religious crazies who may use their beliefs in decisions be better off voting for a candidate who while religious, has a extremely long history of saying No to religiously based decisions?

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that's the dangerous part.

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and ron paul is not a good example.

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I see. But shouldn't these same people support someone like RP who has made part of his career saying No to religious crazy pandering?

Maybe. I'm pro-choice, but I think Roe vs. Wade was a bad law.

But Roe vs. Wade acts as a law. SCOTUS legislated from the bench.
RvW shouldn't have happened in the way that it did.

I'm not discussing Law subjects here.Edited by obvious Child, : I'm not discussing Law subjects here.

I'm not discussing Law subjects here.Let's go back to the pre-abortion issue.The problem I see with a bunch of people is that they believe they can get a purely secular leader in office. That just doesn't make any sense as America, much to their chagrin is religious. How they expect a secular leader to win the necessary caucus votes much less the general in a place where at least 75% of the country is self identified Christian is just astounding. In reality, they should approach it rather in a way that looks at who's more likely to implement religious programs and thinking into their decision processes. And Ron Paul, commonly called Dr. No is by far the best choice at least on the Republican side. I'd rather have him who outright refuses to pander to religious crazies then a democrat who whores them self for votes as Obama has recently done, at least in the religious aspect. Edited by obvious Child, : I'm not discussing Law subjects here.Edited by obvious Child, : No reason given.

Getting back to the original point,Will Huckabee be able to win a super duper tuesday or win the majority in New Hampshire?

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i might agree but only because of the section i have taken the liberty of boldifying.

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Of course. Paul has some pretty crazy ideas that more or less attractive the insane side of the libertarians to him. Pragmatic libertarians may like him in principle, but not agree with his overarching get rid of virtually every federal agency ideas.

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but as you say, it's on the actual issues. like it or not, ron paul's stances on the issues are more imbued with christian influence and pandering than obama's. and yes, abortion is one of those issues.

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Possibly. But Paul doesn't court them or use them for votes. Frankly, Paul doesn't use anyone for that. A funny example is where a openly racist group donated and Paul stated that his long history shows a diametrically opposed career but he'll take their money and ignore them.