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Buzsaw
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Message 15 of 162 (445919)
01-04-2008 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by LinearAq
01-04-2008 11:14 AM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
It appears from his website that he's pretty much of a conservative, i.e. to conserve the standards for the nation that the founders installed, employed and envisioned for the future. These standards are the ones which have made the nation the world's most blessed, where freedom has rang for the first two centuries.
ABE: The really dangerous one, the ultra-liberal Obama who's principle spiritual mentor is a pro black Muslim Louis Farrakan lubber and who advocates a whole lot of what our founders (abe: would oppose) is the one the folks should be concerned about. The ultra left militant sector of the black community will for sure be backing him.
At this point I'm not sure who I'm going to favor but it's obvious which of the two Iowa winners are more dangerous and risky for America!
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.
Edited by Buzsaw, : clarify

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 30 of 162 (445995)
01-04-2008 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by arachnophilia
01-04-2008 2:35 PM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
Arach writes:
and what, exactly, is the problem with being muslim or pro-black?
The Nation of Islam/Black Muslim organization is openly racist, openly anti-white, anti Semitic and pressing for a black Islamic nation in America. They are militant and radical, so much so that even many foreign Muslims don't want to identify with them being it would alarm the people here as to the real nature of fundamentalist Islam. They are becoming a significant power among American blacks, many who come from the ghettos and who are discharged from prisons where the Nation of Islam ministers actively among the black inmates.
It's far more risky for America to be electing a president who's mentor is a close associate with Louis Farrakan and the militant radical Nation of Islam than evangelical former Governor Huckabee. Is Obama's black Christian church parishoners who's pastor is his mentor being indoctrinated into the radicalism of the Nation of Islam? What's the strange relationship between his pastor and the Nation of Islam about?
Perhaps a thread on the Nation of Islam is in order relative to the Obama connection significance so as not to drift off topic here.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 53 of 162 (446313)
01-05-2008 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by arachnophilia
01-05-2008 1:36 AM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
arach writes:
nem, it's not that rules of decency don't apply to anyone else. it's that buzsaw is making up conspiracies again, and torching his straw men.
obama is not a muslim, regardless of any of the standard drivel that buz has to say about islam.
You and your friends repeatedly cry conspiracy, strawmen and inuendo. That's all you do; cry and whine. When are you going to do the debate thing and effectively counter the specifics of what I've posted falsifying content and proving it to be conspiracy, strawmen and inuendo? You people eat up the threads trumping up these baseless personal charges which have no bearing on the thread topic or the specifics of the messages to which you are responding, often whining about why you don't get responses to them.
If you go back and read carefully you will find that a leading US of A presidential candidate, Obama was indeed a Muslim youth practicing Islam in an Islamic school, son of an Islamic father and step father and now a professing Christian whose church's professing Christian pastor has close connections with the radical racist Nation of Islam which works to establish a black dominated kingdom (remember that Obama discussion?), i.e nation in America. This is the kind of people Obama chooses to be associated with and with whom he has enough confidence in to be his spiritual mentors.
Now, your job as my debate counterpart is to soundly refute what I've just said point by point.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 119 of 162 (447632)
01-10-2008 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by nwr
01-05-2008 4:08 PM


Re: Another smear against Obama
nwr writes:
I'll ask a third time. When did Christianity repeal the golden rule?
You need to show precisely how I broke the golden rule - precisely, by copy and paste, explaining howin the rule was broken. Otherwise all this amounts to is another personal smear job against Buz.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 120 of 162 (447638)
01-10-2008 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by jar
01-05-2008 4:09 PM


Re: Another Unsupported Smear Job Against Buzsaw
Jar writes:
Unsupported assertions and innuendo.
Totally irrelevant. Innuendo that you imply that having a Muslim father is some fault.
Totally irrelevant.
Unsupported assertion and innuendo. The Pastor of his Church is a Christian. You have never shown the connection with the Nation of Islam.
Innuendo implying there is some connection between Nation of Islam and Obama.
Have you no honesty Buz?
Have you no integrity? All you have done here is offer your personal opinion on what I have supported -- all of it and personally attacked me as a liar. You need to stop personal attack as per EvC guidelines and begin refuting specifics with substantive support, that which I have posted with support. You need to support your claim that my supportive data is irrevelant and innuendo, supporting your claim.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 122 of 162 (447642)
01-10-2008 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by arachnophilia
01-05-2008 4:24 PM


Re: Poster Boy for the Religious Right
Arach writes:
yes, obama's father was a muslim, and he went to a muslim school when he was younger. neither of those argument are the same thing as "obama is a muslim." and even if he was... so the fuck what. this is just another one of your standard biases talking points, about the evils of islam. nobody here reads that as anything but ignorance and bigotry.
Since this was the only substantive statement in your long diatribe, I'll address it.
1. You have allegedly quoted me as saying Obama is a Muslim. I believe this is not a quote of mine as you have implied. Please explain who's quote it is.
2. In Islamic school, Muslim children of Muslim parents would be considered to be Muslim, praying 5 times daily, studying the Koran, etc. My contention all along is has not been that Obama is a Muslim today, but that he practiced Islam as a child several years, old enough to study algebra. His mentor pastor has connections with the Nation of Islam with the implication that the church and people Obama has chosen to hang out with have racist and radical Islamic tendencies.
I have contended that this may render Obama as a risky candidate for the highest office in the land and indeed in the world so far as authority goes.
You people need to soundly refute the data I have cited with your own supportive data. Instead all you do is badmouth me personally and whine about the data I've cited.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 123 of 162 (447643)
01-10-2008 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by macaroniandcheese
01-10-2008 10:20 AM


Re: Another Unsupported Smear Job Against Buzsaw
I have posted supportive data. Refute it.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
Inactive Member


Message 128 of 162 (448111)
01-12-2008 12:28 AM


Buz's Supportive Data
So as not to be off topic since this thread is about Huckabee I've cited where to find the supportive data which I have been falsy accused by my antagonists of not providing. You have your work cut out over there. It'll take more than LOL!
http://EvC Forum: the new and improved obama thread -->EvC Forum: the new and improved obama thread

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

  
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