Huckabee

yes and no. it's not that the candidate is religious themselves. it's that they're willing to play to tune that the crazies in this country want to hear, for approval. that's the dangerous part.and ron paul is not a good example.

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that's the dangerous part.

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and ron paul is not a good example.

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I see. But shouldn't these same people support someone like RP who has made part of his career saying No to religious crazy pandering?

except on the abortion issue.

Maybe. I'm pro-choice, but I think Roe vs. Wade was a bad law.

roe v. wade is not a law. it's a court case, the ruling of which says that the ability of the government to legislate medical procedures that occur within the confines of a person's body is extremely limitted.ie: it's a ruling that says that certain laws regarding abortion cannot be made.

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But Roe vs. Wade acts as a law. SCOTUS legislated from the bench.
RvW shouldn't have happened in the way that it did.

Actually, they pointed out that the US Constitution guarantees the right to privacy in certain cases; in this particular case, the 14th Amendment's due process clause protects a woman's (qualified) right to terminate her pregnancy from unnecessary intrusions by the state.Edited by Chiroptera, : Changed subtitle.

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He fought for the South for no reason that he could now recall, other than the same one all men fought for: because he'd been a damn fool. -- Garth Ennis

You and your friends repeatedly cry conspiracy, strawmen and inuendo. That's all you do; cry and whine. When are you going to do the debate thing and effectively counter the specifics of what I've posted falsifying content and proving it to be conspiracy, strawmen and inuendo? You people eat up the threads trumping up these baseless personal charges which have no bearing on the thread topic or the specifics of the messages to which you are responding, often whining about why you don't get responses to them.If you go back and read carefully you will find that a leading US of A presidential candidate, Obama was indeed a Muslim youth practicing Islam in an Islamic school, son of an Islamic father and step father and now a professing Christian whose church's professing Christian pastor has close connections with the radical racist Nation of Islam which works to establish a black dominated kingdom (remember that Obama discussion?), i.e nation in America. This is the kind of people Obama chooses to be associated with and with whom he has enough confidence in to be his spiritual mentors.Now, your job as my debate counterpart is to soundly refute what I've just said point by point.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Yet another smear from buzsaw.I'll ask a third time. When did Christianity repeal the golden rule?Edited by nwr, : change subtitle (relevance)

Unsupported assertions and innuendo. Totally irrelevant. Innuendo that you imply that having a Muslim father is some fault. Totally irrelevant. Unsupported assertion and innuendo. The Pastor of his Church is a Christian. You have never shown the connection with the Nation of Islam. Innuendo implying there is some connection between Nation of Islam and Obama.Have you no honesty Buz?

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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!

roe v. wade does not act as a law in the same way the 4th amendment does not act as a law. roe v wade, in particular, affirms that the 4 amendment protects certain medical rights of privacy. have you actually read roe v. wade?

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buz, all you do is smear and cry conspiracy. get a new argument. try one based on reality next time. suppose i use the position that "mitt romney eats puppies, and drinks the blood of christian babies." how exactly would you counter that? would you be able to actually document that he does no such thing? would you even consider debating that kind of argument, or take it seriously? yes, buz, because that's sure what your posts aren't. oh, right, i keep forgetting that for you a profession of faith is not enough. because afterall, the gates of heaven are gaurded by buzsaw himself.yes, obama's father was a muslim, and he went to a muslim school when he was younger. neither of those argument are the same thing as "obama is a muslim." and even if he was... so the fuck what. this is just another one of your standard biases talking points, about the evils of islam. nobody here reads that as anything but ignorance and bigotry. yes, buz, it's a conspiracy. i'm sure. my job as a debate counterpart is to point out that your claims are nothing but bigotted racist slander, paranoid delusions, and a lot of what-ifs that aren't actually based on anything documented or said by any of the parties involved. now, if you wish to bring a real argument that's above the level of claims about eating puppies and such, let me know.

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Heh, it sure is? Remember that if a Muslim becomes an apostate he must be killed, so the reason that none of the 1 billion Muslims in the world have called for his death can only be that every single one of them knows that Obama is secretly planning on implementing Sharia law in the U.S. And nuke Israel, too, of course.That's what Buz was saying on that other thread.Edited by Chiroptera, : changed subtitle

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He fought for the South for no reason that he could now recall, other than the same one all men fought for: because he'd been a damn fool. -- Garth Ennis

yes, but where do the space aliens fit in? is obama siding with them? is he secretly an alien in disguise? is he really the father of batboy? why is bigfoot hiding in his guest house? and where does he get the blood of so many virgins required for his nightly bath?

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I'm not discussing Law subjects here.Edited by obvious Child, : I'm not discussing Law subjects here.