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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5063 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
There is form and there is matter. There is lexicology and grammatology. For anything else about me or skipping over me and my own please take that to a more proper thread.
Psychology and biology are different. Perhaps the person does not believe in hell. Bye for now.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5016 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
So, I really do not see why or how you, for a third time took the bait and continued to not accentuate the postive. You mean you have been deliberately baiting me?
I used "ttrope" for either trope or rope but you bit. Sorry for that because really I was trying to agree pretty much with you. I'm sorry, but I think you used 'tighttrope' and joining two words together is not playing the game, Brad. What is a 'tight trope', by the way?
This shows why sometimes it IS better to spell, and punctuate, and use grammar correctly since communication down under apparently staid, well stale and burnt. I agree that it is better to communicate using good writing and punctuation but is not of paramount importance to written communication. For example, in the above, I cannot spot any spelling mistake but the latter half of the sentence makes no sense to me. Good spelling has not conveyed the message efficiently, no more than tighttrope being too thin did.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5016 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
Don't get me wrong. When I criticize people for their grammar and spelling, I only do it after I've made sure that they were fully capable of not making those errors. I'm not a monster. But do you pay attention and address the content?
That said, there are people who purposely not pay attention to spelling and grammar. Most of the time, I just skip right over their posts. How can you know if it is deliberate? I only query spelling or grammar if I cannot understand it. I see no other reason to do so.
You're absolutely right, which is why I have repeatedly said that good spelling and good grammar is only a courtesy for those of us who aren't as literary as others. Remember that I still have trouble reading that jumbled paragraph of yours in the OP even though by now I know what it's suppose to say. There are at least some members here who are dyslexic and not paying attention to your spelling and grammar make their lives this much harder. Of course people can decide not to be courteous. It's their right. I just want to add that in this post alone I went back 3 times to proof read before pressing the submit button. Ah I do like you. You are defending the 'reading' rights of those with literacy problems and I am defending the 'writing' rights of the same people. This is great. I never thought of that side of the coin. Touche! You are the only one who has said they had trouble reading the missplelled words but you do not have the same trouble writing. There are many who do not possess your writing skills who are dismissed because of it. Personally I think all spelling should accompany the sound, with a few exceptions. Regards
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ThreeDogs Member (Idle past 5882 days) Posts: 77 From: noli me calcare Joined: |
quote:Oh, gawd! It is?
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ThreeDogs Member (Idle past 5882 days) Posts: 77 From: noli me calcare Joined: |
quote:That's really a shame. It is also tiring to read something that may be of interest but falls short of inciting excitement. In other words, the reader may find your subject interesting, but gives up reading and the opportunity to learn, because of sloppy writing habits. quote:The skill of the writer becomes apparent when he uses simple words, spelled and used correctly, to reach all readers. Therefore, it is always better. Seems to me you know better.
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ThreeDogs Member (Idle past 5882 days) Posts: 77 From: noli me calcare Joined: |
quote:I love it!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3322 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
pelican writes:
I ask.
How can you know if it is deliberate? You are defending the 'reading' rights of those with literacy problems and I am defending the 'writing' rights of the same people.
I am not defending the "reading rights" of those with literacy problems. I am simply pointing out that, while it is your freedom to decide to write like crap even though you can do better, it is the nice and courteous thing to do to follow the grammar and spelling rules. Try to see it this way. Handicapped people don't have the right to force others to open and keep the door open for them. But it's the courteous thing to do. Again, I'm not saying you must have the correct spelling and the correct grammar or else. I'm saying that it's the nice thing to do especially for those who have trouble reading.
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5063 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
I was going to leave the objectsTrope_(linguistics)]to something 'tight' or taught as we went along.
I no longer have an intution for what that might be nor what you are interested in dicussing loosely at all. Why don't you just tell us. Most of the content of your post is within the brain(in series or via a static state), involutarily perpetuated, it seemed to me. Trope was not used by me after a deliberation. But seeing that it could apply to others on the board if they had wanted to question my use of reading then it might have a function. Between you and me it is nothing but a focus. A place to test the interference of the firs and the last. Verbs have more difficulty. On EvC nouns can matterialy get worked out better over time.
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5063 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
Please bring this up in this thread
http://EvC Forum: All about Brad McFall II. -->EvC Forum: All about Brad McFall II. instead. It is not a shame at all. I put it all out and that leaves a trail for us to follow if THERE IS ANY QUESTION about what was written. I always respond if there is some question to be answered. I would say that out of my tousands of posts perhaps AT MOST I have failed to come back to about 6 or 9 of them that I said I would. If I was continually asked to return to them, I would. I have not been. There is no doubt that I have combined in my thoughts, thoughts that historically have remained seperated. I do not know what you mean "it is ALSO..." You attribute two things to me and yet as far as I know this is the first time you have responded to me. Feel free to engage me in the thread above. I said everything slowly and clearly hereEvC Forum: Teleological Science? Lack of response there can not be due to the topic in this thread. Lack of reponse to threads can tell of something positive as well. Edited by Brad McFall, : No reason given. Edited by Brad McFall, : No reason given.
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
I said everything slowly and clearly here EvC Forum: Teleological Science? Lack of response there can not be due to the topic in this thread. Lack of reponse to threads can tell of something positive as well. Brad, I hate to break it to you but this;
Brad McFall writes: With a full discussion of changing selection pressures ecologically transmitted across generations under niche construction, man can find a way beyond the simple symbiogenesis of our past, into new regions where more physical and less competitive pressures reside while the incomprehensibility of Wright (gene combinations per individual vs gene frequency in a population) is made inscribable in the “w” FORM above as the teleomatic process of Macrothermodynamics become grown in a new ecological economics striving to exist in the limit and genetic “program” of future generations. The “prima facie” hierarchy of biotic rights would have a biophysical reality. is a very, very long way from being clear. I doubt that the reason your post has gone unanswered is that people read it and agreed. I think that few bothered to read it, because it consisted largely of a huge cut-and-paste, presented in scanned thumbs. As for your bit, they probably couldn't translate it from the gibberish. You may have been making a fascinating point, but since I can't understand a word you're saying, thanks to your uniquely confused writing style, any point is lost on me. Sorry. Mutate and Survive
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3976 Joined: |
Brad has supplied a topic to pursue things Brad - All about Brad McFall II. There are also quite a few other "Brad" topics.
Brad has a long history here at . He is member 112 - One of the early comers. The management recognizes Brad as being both quite intelligent and knowledgeable, but also one with a considerable genuine difficulty at communicating his thoughts. The impression is that Brad has at least sometimes gotten better at doing his messages. You may wish to go to Brad's message index and go back to the earliest messages for a sampling of "early Brad". Personally, I don't attempt to read Brad's messages much. Regardless of their degree of coherence, they tend to be in materials foreign to me. Anyway, please take any further Brad discussion to the above link. Also, please no replies to this message. Adminnemooseus
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pelican Member (Idle past 5016 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
Again, I'm not saying you must have the correct spelling and the correct grammar or else. I'm saying that it's the nice thing to do especially for those who have trouble reading. Those who have trouble reading also have trouble writing, don't you think? It certainly isn't the majority on this forum. They read and write perfectly well. If I can read correct spelling, then I can read missplled words too. Most read the OP with ease but some of those are impatient and critical of others misspelled posts and not because it is illedgible. I think that maybe your experience is quite unique. Most do not deliberately mispell but do their best as you and I do. Isn't it courteous to make an effort to read them instead of dismissing them? Edited by pelican, : No reason given.
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
pelican responds to me:
quote: Yes. Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5016 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
I no longer have an intution for what that might be nor what you are interested in dicussing loosely at all. Why don't you just tell us. Most of the content of your post is within the brain(in series or via a static state), involutarily perpetuated, it seemed to me. Involuntary, no. I present a series of points that link together, at least in my mind. All the dots join together. However, I have been discussing the importance, or not, of correct spelling in written communication. That is all, nothing more. I had only just read the misspelled passage for the first time myself, and I saw implications (also observed by the author) that correct spelling is not so important. My intention to posting the misspelled passage was to get others' observations in comparison with my own. We can read words with only the correct first and last letter, we can also read them with the last letter missing, (probably not the first). We can read words with letters missing in the middle. We can also read words and sentences with missing punctuation, not that punctuation was part of the OP. It focussed on spelling only. My observations showed me that correct spelling is not as important as the content. If the content is crap, no amount of correct spelling will change that. Edited by pelican, : No reason given. Edited by pelican, : No reason given.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5016 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
Thanks Rrhain, I wonder if you recognise words by the sound of them? I myself do it this way. In fact that is how I spell them. I don't hold the full word in my head to instantly recognise, I hear them. I kinda remember the exceptions and free up my memory space.
I read the OP passage easily because I grasped the concept in the first sentence. I thought it was quite ingenious to test one's own mind.
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