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Author Topic:   My "Beef" With Atheists
cavediver
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Message 44 of 123 (482601)
09-17-2008 2:43 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Watson75
09-17-2008 2:32 AM


I must just point out that your reading comprehension seems to be a particularly big failing - is English not your first language? You have repeatedly asked Rahvin to answer a question, that he has already clearly answered. You even quoted the beginning of his paragraph where he clearly answered, yet you failed to keep reading, or failed to understand tbe words that he wrote. Also, you suggested that Catholic Scientist should start keeping score, when it was blatently evident that he had in fact already started keeping score, and even provided that score for us to see. My wife is an English scholar and charges very reasonable rates for remedial English studies. Just a suggestion...
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cavediver
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Message 48 of 123 (482608)
09-17-2008 2:57 AM
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09-17-2008 2:51 AM


No and incorrect! He has not clearly answered yes or no, to a yes or no question.
Again, I think this comes down to a lack of reading comprehension. His answer could not be more clear. If you can only handle a pure binary yes/no answer, then I'm sorry - perhaps if you acknowledge Rahvin's excellent answer, and then politely ask if is able to summarise that to a yes or no, you may get your wish. Worth a try, at least...
You must think I'm dumb.
As a scientist, I just follow the evidence...
Did you come here just to sound dumb or attempt to be condescending? Well, you've exceeded in both, which is a disgusting combo.
I guess I'm just following the author of the OP - he seems to be the master of such attributes
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cavediver
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Message 50 of 123 (482613)
09-17-2008 3:25 AM
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09-17-2008 3:11 AM


Oh, and cavediver, are you an atheist.[sic]
Absolutely not!
Would you like to answer my question (yes/no) and stimulate debate?
Yes, ok, I will answer - there is nothing in anything I have seen in this Universe to suggest intelligence, other than that we see in ourselves (and that I see as originating naturally via the laws of physics, chemistry and bioilogy.) I cannot see how you phrased your question originally, but take this as a definite yes/no answer, whichever appropriately conveys what I have just said.

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cavediver
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Message 53 of 123 (482616)
09-17-2008 3:38 AM
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09-17-2008 3:30 AM


Do you believe this reality, this "something" you see around you, is at the very least "suggestive" of an intelligence that may be behind it.
Absolutely, most definitely, not. No. Not a chance.

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cavediver
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Message 56 of 123 (482619)
09-17-2008 4:06 AM
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09-17-2008 3:59 AM


Re: The question was answered
They cannot produce a real answer to the question because it means they're either admitting there's enough evidence to suggest an intelligence, which makes them agnostic or deistic (something they don't like, or want to be), and if they say "no..." you just don't sound too smart, because it's pretty easy to determine that the reality we interpret is suggestive enough of an intelligence to make atheism an irrational faith.
Well, before your inevitable suspension, perhaps you could fight your way through the conundrum I have just presented - I am not an atheist and I answered with a most definite 'no'. I'm an ex-phsyicist/cosmologist/mathematician so, at least on paper, I'm reasonably smart, and I have had the chance to look at most places in the Universe for this supposed evidence of intelligence. I have seen none. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

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