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Author Topic:   Debate - Ongoing controversy, the EvC question
bkwusa
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Message 1 of 40 (5043)
02-18-2002 11:56 PM


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The ongoing controversy between Creation and Evolution will never be resolved; it can not be resolved, regardless of the well intended efforts of many on either side of the debate, or in between. But, it is a necessary evil which keeps people "shook-up" enough to dig in and really study the matter just to settle the argument in their own hearts. Isn't that why YOU are here reading this? You see, the real issue between evolutionists and creationists is not the existence of God. The real issue is whether all things were created by the Hebrew God of the Holy Bible and according to a designed purpose. The authority of the Bible and the moral issue of personal accountability to God is the root of all contention in that debate.
A true born again Christian, who is also a scientist, cannot be fully objective in a empirical perspective, in dealing with the question of origins. The acceptance of God's word on matters of original sin and supernatural agency hold us accountable to a higher interpretive system; a system which has no place of welcome in the institutional physical sciences of the world. No amount of compromise will be acceptable, to either the naturalists or creationist extremes of each respective school. That being said, please do not misunderstand. A lot of good knowledge emerges from the practice of good science and the scientific method, and there are a lot of good Christians who are scientists. But when it comes to matters of origins and the things of God, natural science (without God) is out of it's depth in providing the full truth.
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this is from http://www.kjvbible.org Science and Scripture; Geology and Genesis
thought someone might be interested

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bkwusa
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Message 2 of 40 (5046)
02-19-2002 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by bkwusa
02-18-2002 11:56 PM


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For the present, it needs to be stressed that everything that has happened on the earth throughout the planet's history can not be explained by only the natural laws. From the beginning of time when the earth was first created (Genesis 1:1), across the geologic ages to the destruction of the ancient world order (Genesis 1:2) and through the regeneration of the heavens and earth in the six-literal days (Genesis 1:3 - 31), there was both natural and supernatural agencies at work, at different times in Earth's history. The possibility of the latter agency, however, is not accepted into the formulation of any secular theory of origins.
Armed with only the observations of current and historical geologic processes and other empirical data, and assuming natural history has been a continuum across billions of years, the present secular paradigms of geological and evolutionary theory are about the best that the carnal mind of man could be expected to conceive from the available physical evidence. Even so, those theories are incomplete and many questions and mysteries remain unresolved, especially in relation to the origins of mankind.
Noah's flood and Divine creative intervention by a Holy God is not factored into the world's accepted origins model, because God can't be observed or quantified in a physical system or seen under a microscope, although the results of His work can be observed and quantified. For these reasons there is an unbridgeable gap between Empirical Science and the Christian faith in respect to both Creation and Noah's flood. Empirical Science is the pursuit of quantifiable facts and repeatable observations and is limited to the physical sphere of reality. From this purely physical perspective the geological evidence appears to indicate that this planet and the life on it are the result of natural processes over time, and that the existence of all life forms and extinctions must be credited to a natural process of random mutations and selection by nature itself. In such a paradigm of interpretation, the researcher's faith is in a theory or synthesis of theories which seems to best fit the observations. But the Bible reveals that life on this planet has not been a continuum, that all life and the ancient world finally perished about 12,000 or so years ago (i.e. at the Younger Dryas paleoclimate marker) Consequently, belief in Creation and faith in the Bible are beyond the secular paradigm, because the truth of the Scriptures provides additional considerations which facilitate a more perfect interpretation of the available geologic evidence.
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forgat the part above it

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