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Are Fundamentalists Inherently Immoral

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Taz
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08-25-2009 11:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 3 by Holyfire23
08-25-2009 11:13 PM

Numbers 31: 15-17 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
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Message 25 of 161 (521296)
08-26-2009 8:48 PM 		Reply to: Message 7 by Holyfire23
08-26-2009 12:00 AM

Holyfire23 writes:
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Numbers 25:16-18
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"The LORD said to Moses, 'Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them, because they treated you as enemies when they deceived you in the affair of Peor and their sister Cozbi, the daughter of a Midianite leader, the woman who was killed when the plague came as a result of Peor.' "
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At the time of Moses the Hebrew nation took its orders directly from God. God was the Ruler; Moses was the messanger. The Bible says that "the wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23). Jesus came to die for the sins of man (John 3:16). In the Old Testament, however, Jesus had not come to earth yet and man still had to pay the price. Numbers chapter 31 is an example of God's just wrath--not of his immorality. The Midianites sinned and were therefore punished. According the Law of God. Justice cannot be counted as immorality. They are opposite.
But holyfire, we're talking about rape in ALL circumstances, not just certain circumstances. Are you saying that rape, in some cases, is right?
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So what if the Midianites were punished by god? I don't care if god got out his holy erect penis and raped those virgins, is rape wrong in all circumstances or not?
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08-26-2009 9:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 26 by hooah212002
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This really goes back to Socrates' question: Is a thing good because the gods say so or do the gods say so because it is good?
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08-27-2009 12:07 AM 		Reply to: Message 29 by Holyfire23
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Holyfire23 writes:
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but in their culture it is a way of entertainment.
On what planet do you live on?
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