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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote: Why is this sort of second-hand account accepted as representing what people actually say, or even think? Why is it accepted as representing Christians, as opposed to, perhaps, atheists posing as Christians? The unquestioning, mindless acceptance of these notions in atheist circles exposes atheism in the USA as a deep and nasty well of bigotry and indeed stupidity, even puerility. When will America grow up?
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:This demonstrates the intellectual level of the USA.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:Where? In this forum? quote:But maybe most of humanity doesn't deserve to be anywhere else?
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:There's nothing of that sort on the first page. It will be assumed that there is no evidence of lack of love when discussing salvation with evangelicals. The alleged "We'll scare 'em! Do you like to burn?" is a slanderous invention, for all you know. quote:And this comes from a guy who complains of lack of love!! quote:Is it uncompassionate and unloving to throw out the trash? Is it compassionate and loving to force decent people to live with people who are not decent? Everybody has a choice of how they are going to behave, and if they choose to go to hell, then their choice should be fully respected. Democracy, I say.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:Are most human beings not trash, then?
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:Is there a reason for people not being trash? quote:How is this relevant? Is there logic and fact, rather than meaningless rhetoric, in support of this pov?
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:I think all should agree that we share common ground in that statements are to be supported with logic and facts, and not with personal abuse. Now is there fact and reason to support the opinion that most people are not trash? I think that all will agree, even if they refrain from saying so, that if humanity's answer to this question is personal abuse, then there is excellent reason for believing that humanity is indeed trash. quote:So it's fine if I cast aspersions on your character the way you've done to me?
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:But you haven't provided a scrap of real evidence that it exists. quote:It's you who has to justify why humanity should not be so treated, Percy. You wrote this: 'We're given what sounds to us a very contradictory explanation, that God is love, that God makes the rules that condemn most of humanity to hell' So you start a thread that is based on mere hearsay, then, when challenged about it, you refrain from justifying anything you wrote, and then, when what you wrote is questioned, and not one poster can justify it, you want to cut it out of the thread! It's farcical, Percy. Do you want to debate, or do you just want a soap box to stand on, with any who disagree being carried off by heavies? Face the fact that the love of a deity does not preclude punishment of his creation for deeds done. There is no necessary contradiction. Now if we can agree on that, we can move on to whether or not the reasonable view that hell exists for wrongdoers, that has been the official view of every alleged church group for 2000 years, is presented in a way that is unreasonable and even objectionable.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
Maybe they are not contemptible liars?
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:There is no such thing, of course.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:So liars are acceptable, but those who tell the truth are sociopaths!
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:What if they are? Surely it's not breaking a commandment, whereas saying there is a hell and then denying it makes a mockery of this whole discussion, because people who do that can't be Christians. But you lot don't give a damn. America has no shame: "I've got bullets, shells and rockets, I don't need moral authority, you fool!" You guys can write all you like, but you count for nothing in the real world. You can fool yourselves that you do, I suppose. Dream on. Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:With that scarce commodity, common sense. By checking the posts I commented on. It has been admitted that most who call themselves Christians tell lies. So they cannot be Christians. Surely it takes very little brain to work out that much.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:What the skeptical position amounts to on this issue, though I'm sure they mostly don't realise it, is that Christians shouldn't have children. A theme worthy of Herr Adolf indeed.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5269 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:Let us know if someone is that.
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