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Evangelical Indoctrination of Children

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iano
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10-11-2009 5:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 279 by cavediver
10-10-2009 9:52 AM

cavediver writes:
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Christianity is the easiest get-out card in the world for excusing oneself from living up to one's responsibilities. Having spent over two decades of my life as a 'born-again' Christian, I have seen it again and again and again... pathetic
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How on earth do you conclude Christianity as issuing any kind of 'get out' card - given that we (Christians) must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ?
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Perhaps you mean that 'knowing you won't be damned' is misconstrued by some (probably all, at times) as a 'freedom not to live up to ones responsibilities'. But any 'get out' card connected with such behaviour is purely illusionary - the product of a sorely mistaken Christians thinking - something I'm sure you'll agree Christianity as stating?
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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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10-12-2009 4:57 AM 		Reply to: Message 289 by Rrhain
10-11-2009 6:08 PM

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Because if only you believe and accept Jesus into your heart, you will achieve salvation. Sounds like a get-out-of-jail card to me.
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I suppose it depends on what you call jail. The born again Christian isn't involved in a race for his salvation so deprivation for 'not living up to his responsibilities' won't involve his salvation. Which is not to say that no consequences attach to his behaviour. Or that these can't be extremely unpleasant.
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Not at all, for a significant number of Christians believe it and can point you to the textual justification for it. It sounds like your response is merely that you don't like their interpretation, and we start descending into a "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy.
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I was addressing a person who described themselves as a (once) born again Christian and am supposing an answer from that perspective.
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