Hi RAZD,
Boy RAZD seems like there is a lot of confusion here. Basically that is because we are dealing with a belief here. You get a lot of I don’t know what you are talking about, when you come right up against a belief. Evidence is all we need and then there is no confusion.
Now I’ve known that I and all people have beliefs, or if you will faith.
Faith is a belief without proof, without objective verifiable evidence.
I have two sons, like all the other males in the world I have NO objective verifiable evidence they are biologically mine. I operate under the belief they are, based upon my wife’s word that this is true and a very subjective opinion that they resemble me. This does not rise to the level of ‘objective verifiable evidence. It is a belief/faith.
I also have a mother and father. In 60 years here, I have no objective verifiable evidence that they are in fact my biological parents. Yet, I operate a large part of my life assuming this is true as with my sons.
Facing reality, understanding you have faith/beliefs means you understand what you and other people are doing. If you think you have faith/belief in nothing without objective verifiable evidence (a common atheist theme here) you are living in a delusion.
You do not get to demand objective verifiable evidence of the deist or theist while in your own life you have faith/beliefs and can not provide objective verifiable evidence of these beliefs, or for that matter that god does not exist. You do not get to claim these people are irrational or delusional for you are doing the exact same thing they are. I have no problem with this. I do have a problem with atheist’s claiming they are superior to everyone else because they are under the delusion they believe NOTHING without objective verifiable evidence.
So atheists, show me you believe nothing. Give me the objective verifiable evidence that you are biologically related to both your parents and to your children. Same standards of evidence required of deists and theists by you for god’s existence.
RAZD,
Thanks, until you asked for proof/evidence in your OP for the atheist position and received 452 replies WITH NO EVIDENCE.
It made me realize atheism is a belief, just like deism or theism.
Thanks, I needed that
Marty (petrophysics) a fellow deist..don’t believe a word I saylook for yourself and see what you find!